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Patrick
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1st Apr 04 at 13:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

You'd have to change the whole way the VTEC engine works to fit a turbo. The two engines work in a completely different way.
Robbo
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quote:
Originally posted by sxi boy
quote:
Originally posted by Robbo
Hardly... a VTEC engine has NEVER broken, regardless of tuning... cannot say the same of a Vauxhall


my mate managed to severely fuck up his DC5 integra by changing into 1st instead of 3rd at about 80mph


PMSL!
sxi boy
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quote:
Originally posted by Robbo
quote:
Originally posted by sxi boy
quote:
Originally posted by Robbo
Hardly... a VTEC engine has NEVER broken, regardless of tuning... cannot say the same of a Vauxhall


my mate managed to severely fuck up his DC5 integra by changing into 1st instead of 3rd at about 80mph


PMSL!


close ratio box, he got a new engine out of it tho

awesome car, pure porn
Robbo
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quote:
Originally posted by Patrick
You'd have to change the whole way the VTEC engine works to fit a turbo. The two engines work in a completely different way.
not really, a chip wud easily sort that... £400 gets one that lowers the VTEC 2 5.5k an u can also get ones which eliminate VTEC for s/c's etc
sxi boy
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or get a v-tec controller which brings the v-tec in much earlier in the rev range
Ojc
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1st Apr 04 at 13:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Or sell it and buy a Astra GSi
Robbo
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Hardly... on another subject... ollie i saw that 182 again 2day but no white stripes
Nismo
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Mate at work had to make this desicion he took both out and ended up buying the Civic he said was much nicer and faster and a better drive alltogether.
Ojc
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1st Apr 04 at 13:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Maybe its an optional extra Robbo, but trust me they sell the car with white strips through the side of the car.

Looks terrible.
Robbo
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
Maybe its an optional extra Robbo, but trust me they sell the car with white strips through the side of the car.

Looks terrible.
Looks terrible regardless
sxi boy
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
Maybe its an optional extra Robbo, but trust me they sell the car with white strips through the side of the car.

Looks terrible.


gordini stripes?? like viper stripes but offset to the side slightly??

i dnt mind em in a sorta retro way wouldnt have em on myself tho
Ojc
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Them exactly, looks awful. Like its ram raided halfords.
l33t corsa
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quote:
Originally posted by Patrick
You'd have to change the whole way the VTEC engine works to fit a turbo. The two engines work in a completely different way.


There is no problem fitting a turbo to a vtec engine... if you want really big power suitable cams/pistons etc are available to suit. The USA love for drag racing means there are numerous parts available for vtec turbos.

[Edited on 01-04-2004 by l33t corsa]
Ojc
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1st Apr 04 at 14:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Lucky them
sxi boy
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1st Apr 04 at 14:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

spend mega £££ on some spoon stuff then watch the civic go
corsa-sxi
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben
i would go for astra , ctr is now becomin a favourite with the asain drivers and r becoming very common .

but i wud still have any of them


whats ur point?
Jules S
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quote:
Originally posted by Robbo
Why does no1 understand VTEC


Ok robbo explain then....

my understanding is that its a high lift cam/valve arrangement which kicks in high rev power/torque....almost like a powerband. No low level torque means that you receive poor acceleration at low revs until the vtec zone.....if changing into higher gears takes you out of this zone you surely arent going as fast as a turbo (very flat torque curve)
Screaming Vtec
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HAHAHAHAH

Whats the fastest Astra in the world?

Whats the fastest Civic?

Which ones faster

Fuck me, the Astra is 'nippy' cos of a turbo, the CTR is because of the engineering that went into it...

vibrio
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quote:
Originally posted by Robbo
Hardly... a VTEC engine has NEVER broken, regardless of tuning... cannot say the same of a Vauxhall



not true. a few CTR's have had bottom end failures
vibrio
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quote:
Originally posted by Screaming Vtec
HAHAHAHAH

Whats the fastest Astra in the world?

Whats the fastest Civic?

Which ones faster

Fuck me, the Astra is 'nippy' cos of a turbo, the CTR is because of the engineering that went into it...





yes forgot no engineering went into making a turbo charged engine. both cars are quick. with the CTR being slightly faster to 100mph. I'd prefer the GSi due to the engine and ride mainly. I also think it looks better
Ditch
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quote:
Originally posted by Screaming Vtec

Fuck me, the Astra is 'nippy' cos of a turbo, the CTR is because of the engineering that went into it...





so turbos took no engineering whatso-ever?
Screaming Vtec
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1st Apr 04 at 15:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

And benny, when driving fast, you NEVER drop out of the powerband..

Thats the beauty of it, you are basically running very high lift cams, but with none of the low end lumpiness..

Robbo
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quote:
Originally posted by vibrio
quote:
Originally posted by Robbo
Hardly... a VTEC engine has NEVER broken, regardless of tuning... cannot say the same of a Vauxhall



not true. a few CTR's have had bottom end failures
a VTEC system has NEVER failed... if theyve had orblems it will be because it has been modified in soem ways
Robbo
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1st Apr 04 at 15:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by benny_h
quote:
Originally posted by Robbo
Why does no1 understand VTEC


Ok robbo explain then....

my understanding is that its a high lift cam/valve arrangement which kicks in high rev power/torque....almost like a powerband. No low level torque means that you receive poor acceleration at low revs until the vtec zone.....if changing into higher gears takes you out of this zone you surely arent going as fast as a turbo (very flat torque curve)
Ha ha
Screaming Vtec
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Well put it this way..

You could slap a turbo onto a CTR for £1500.. no probs..

You try putting VTEC into the Vauxhall for that

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