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MikeD
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13th Jun 04 at 22:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

beckham is not to blame at all, and lampard isnt a hero, the only thing he did in the game was score he didnt do anything else, we were unlucky and i am gutted but there is still 2 games to go.
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how is beckham to blame?? that was a fk'in good save for a frenchy...penalties are just luck and he guessed where he was goin
Nath
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He is to blame, penalties are scoring opportunites. They are called penalties as they are meant to penalise the opponents. He hardly did that did he?!?!
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quote:
Originally posted by Trucido
how is beckham to blame?? that was a fk'in good save for a frenchy...penalties are just luck and he guessed where he was goin


Nail. Hit. Head.
MikeD
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He missed a penalty which cant be helped, it could have happened to anyone
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quote:
Originally posted by Nath
He is to blame, penalties are scoring opportunites. They are called penalties as they are meant to penalise the opponents. He hardly did that did he?!?!


Nope, a penalty gives you a scoring opportunity, hence the reason for penalties in the 18yard box, as they are classed as a scoring opportunity.
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Penalties should never be missed
MikeD
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quote:
Originally posted by Nath
Penalties should never be missed


Should, yes

But it happens and from this we will get better
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quote:
Originally posted by liam_nufc
quote:
Originally posted by Nath
He is to blame, penalties are scoring opportunites. They are called penalties as they are meant to penalise the opponents. He hardly did that did he?!?!


Nope, a penalty gives you a scoring opportunity, hence the reason for penalties in the 18yard box, as they are classed as a scoring opportunity.



Us scoring wouldve penalised them no? Yes..........
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i expected 2nd in the table anyway - so as u say - not all is bad

expected a draw at most from this game

2 more wins, and france win other 2, so on same points with them having better goal diff


but as it is - they will have more points, but same placing
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France are favourites and they beat us, not really a shock. Its only hard to take as we played better.
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noone has mentioned he should have got red card
Nath
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We will playe the winenrs from Group A. Probably Spain, bring it on i say.
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We can still obtain 6 points which would see us progress. Plus personally i'd love to play France again. We'd definately win after their World Cup like performance.


Were you watching the same second half as everyone else?

They hammered us second half. We had backs to the wall all half, got one counter attack and got a penalty. If they had Henry and Trezeguet on scoring form today we wouldnt of stood a chance.

Full marks to our defence though, whole defence had a cracking game IMO.
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quote:
Originally posted by liam_nufc
quote:
Originally posted by Nath
We can still obtain 6 points which would see us progress. Plus personally i'd love to play France again. We'd definately win after their World Cup like performance.


Were you watching the same second half as everyone else?

They hammered us second half. We had backs to the wall all half, got one counter attack and got a penalty. If they had Henry and Trezeguet on scoring form today we wouldnt of stood a chance.

Full marks to our defence though, whole defence had a cracking game IMO.


they need to get the ball to have a chance thou - which they didnt do
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quote:
Originally posted by Nath
quote:
Originally posted by liam_nufc
quote:
Originally posted by Nath
He is to blame, penalties are scoring opportunites. They are called penalties as they are meant to penalise the opponents. He hardly did that did he?!?!


Nope, a penalty gives you a scoring opportunity, hence the reason for penalties in the 18yard box, as they are classed as a scoring opportunity.



Us scoring wouldve penalised them no? Yes..........


Nope, Penalising them was giving Silvestre a yellow card, as he stopped a scoring opportunity, hence the penalty.
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noone has mentioned he should have got red card


So should James in that case as he was last man. England had no subs left.

Doubt anyone would of saved that penalty anyway like.
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Originally posted by liam_nufc
quote:
Originally posted by Nath
We can still obtain 6 points which would see us progress. Plus personally i'd love to play France again. We'd definately win after their World Cup like performance.


Were you watching the same second half as everyone else?

They hammered us second half. We had backs to the wall all half, got one counter attack and got a penalty. If they had Henry and Trezeguet on scoring form today we wouldnt of stood a chance.

Full marks to our defence though, whole defence had a cracking game IMO.


If Becks had scored we wouldve won. Playing badly and still beating the number 2 ranked counrty goes down well in my books.

Plus you support Newcastle, what do you know?
MikeD
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quote:
Originally posted by liam_nufc
quote:
Originally posted by Drew
noone has mentioned he should have got red card


So should James in that case as he was last man. England had no subs left.

Doubt anyone would of saved that penalty anyway like.


I totally agree, also if james hadnt of tried his luck maybe france would have scored anyway, id have done the same
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quote:
Originally posted by liam_nufc
quote:
Originally posted by Nath
quote:
Originally posted by liam_nufc
quote:
Originally posted by Nath
He is to blame, penalties are scoring opportunites. They are called penalties as they are meant to penalise the opponents. He hardly did that did he?!?!


Nope, a penalty gives you a scoring opportunity, hence the reason for penalties in the 18yard box, as they are classed as a scoring opportunity.



Us scoring wouldve penalised them no? Yes..........


Nope, Penalising them was giving Silvestre a yellow card, as he stopped a scoring opportunity, hence the penalty.
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Dont make me laugh u tit.
Drew
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13th Jun 04 at 22:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by liam_nufc
quote:
Originally posted by Drew
noone has mentioned he should have got red card


So should James in that case as he was last man. England had no subs left.

Doubt anyone would of saved that penalty anyway like.


yes james should have also been sent off
liamC
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13th Jun 04 at 22:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Resorting to insults. Magic.
Drew
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13th Jun 04 at 22:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

differance been - 70th minute - to 91st minute
MikeD
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13th Jun 04 at 22:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

2 games left, and Switzerland and Croatia didnt look that great TBH we have still got a chance to be second place
Nath
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Originally posted by liam_nufc
Resorting to insults. Magic.


So a penalty isnt meant to penalise them? They fouled in a dangerous position so a penalty was awarded to penalise them for this. Prove me wrong.

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