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RichR

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17th Feb 05 at 11:54

I wouldnt worry abotu the courts taking the police's side - U'll be attending a Magistrate court - Magistrates are made up of three people - one who is legally trained (ie a barrister or ex Judge or so on) a lawyer of some kind - the other two are essentially members of the public -

I had several police officers and several witnesses against me in my case - I had 1 witness and that wasnt any real bearing on the police case

The main issue was that all of the witnesses Police in particular got tongue tied and crossed what eachother were saying

If u say essentially what youve said on here - the dark lit street - just seeing two reflective yellow tabards,etc - Im sure the court will take leniancy on you -

Just dont come across as cocky in court - answer all questions clearly and cohersively. Most important dress smartly - suit and tie - but not a white shirt - I knwo it sounds daft but White shirts make you look more guilty - u need a blue shirt under a black suit prefferably; U need to represent your character

All of the witnesses turned up at my case dressed like typical chavs - shirts hangin out; no ties; jeans; trianers and it definately had an effect

L33 LEG

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17th Feb 05 at 12:00

people say i look guilty all the time

i dnt suppose this is going to help my case. and i have a tendency to answer very cocky.

i have a few weeks to become polite, shudnt be too hard

ljames555

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17th Feb 05 at 12:05

say that you were concerned at the person with no uniform on and it looked dodgy with one policeman with uniform on and other not

hazey-corsa

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17th Feb 05 at 12:07

Use the intended original story Lee, my mates Dad whos a sargeant says that they have no actual right to stop you if they are on foot and nothing is wrong, you are just "advised to stop" he also says that they might try and make up some sort of story as to why they tried to stop you to help their case.

L33 LEG

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17th Feb 05 at 12:08

thats a good point. ye ill include that. surely if they were both on duty they shud had been in uniform. i still want to know why there ws no car there tho. its not exactly a road u walk along

L33 LEG

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17th Feb 05 at 12:10

quote:
Originally posted by hazey-corsa
Use the intended original story Lee, my mates Dad whos a sargeant says that they have no actual right to stop you if they are on foot and nothing is wrong, you are just "advised to stop" he also says that they might try and make up some sort of story as to why they tried to stop you to help their case.

i know what u mean, they were just stop checks at first. but now theyl probably say i was speeding and all that. simple really tho, if theres no proof saying that theyre cops why shud i pull over. it could have been anybody

Mark Petty

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17th Feb 05 at 12:17

If I was u I would read what LiVe LeE said. It seems good advice

L33 LEG

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17th Feb 05 at 12:20

yes i know. i will try my best to make a good impression

Mark Petty

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17th Feb 05 at 12:23

I know it will be hard for u but don't come across cocky

As others have said answer the questions clearly and to the point don't start rambling about shi t

L33 LEG

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17th Feb 05 at 12:25

i never ramble

sometimes

Mark Petty

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17th Feb 05 at 12:27

I have a funny feeling you do

L33 LEG

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17th Feb 05 at 12:28

--Dave--

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17th Feb 05 at 12:31

same thing happened to me pretty much, I was actually quite surprised that some policemen were actually flagging me down and it took me a while to realise what was happening.

I stopped but it was quite harsh (didn't skid or anything) and the woman told me I was going quite fast (bollocks was doing 30) the hard braking made it look like i was going fast.

It turned out it was just a routine stop and I got told to make sure i wear my seatbelt... which i was doing anyway.

Don't blame you for not stopping really especially as there was no car there.

I actually had to take a second look at them to realise they were police.

Ian

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17th Feb 05 at 12:32

quote:
Originally posted by Matty L
if they were on foot then you where right not to stop.Its the same as an unmarked cop car cannot stop you..or so i heard anyway.

Being on foot doesn't make a difference, they have the same powers as if they were in a car. If anything its a more serious offence because usually they will arrest you temporarily in case you drive off, bigger penalties for not co-operating and they've more justification to pursue.

Read this - http://www.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts1988/Ukpga_19880052_en_8.htm

Mark Petty

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17th Feb 05 at 12:37

I would just say I didn't see them so didn't realise they were police as it was pretty dark and I was concentrating on the road. (No police cars anywhere)
If I did realise they were police I would of pulled over straight away as I wasn't speeding or doing anything wrong so there is no reason why I wouldn't of stopped.

[Edited on 17-02-2005 by Mark Petty]

Toph

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17th Feb 05 at 12:41

There is also a home office approved way of stopping a mechanically propelled vehicle on a road.

Where by you need to use specified hand signals to the driver of the vehicle to indicate that you require them to come to a stop at the side of the kerb.

also i don’t know why the constables have said they are taking you to court, it is up to the CPU to decide if it is in the interest of the public to take further action regarding the incident,

Have you been served a summons notice >?

Ian

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17th Feb 05 at 12:44

quote:
Originally posted by CuteCorsaAngel
By law one police officer can not do anything

What?

CCA

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17th Feb 05 at 12:49

quote:
Originally posted by Ian

quote:
Originally posted by CuteCorsaAngel
By law one police officer can not do anything
What?

Whats wrong with that

Neshol

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17th Feb 05 at 12:50

quote:
Originally posted by Ian

quote:
Originally posted by CuteCorsaAngel
By law one police officer can not do anything
What?

Neshol

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17th Feb 05 at 12:51

You're thinking that one copper in a car can't give you a ticket. But you can hardly generalise it to say that 1 copper can't do Anything

CCA

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17th Feb 05 at 12:51

Hey im just writing what im being told to
Sorry

Ian

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17th Feb 05 at 12:58

quote:
Originally posted by CuteCorsaAngel
Whats wrong with that

Its wrong?

Toph

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17th Feb 05 at 12:59

i used to walk the streets on my own when i was in the police and i arrested plenty. so some one has got it mixed up.

you can not search some one on your own you must always have another officer then. thats what it might be getting mixed up with

CCA

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17th Feb 05 at 13:01

quote:
Originally posted by Ian

quote:
Originally posted by CuteCorsaAngel
Whats wrong with that
Its wrong?

Ok well like i said im only writing what im getting told to write

Mark Petty

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17th Feb 05 at 13:08

quote:
Originally posted by Ian

quote:
Originally posted by CuteCorsaAngel
By law one police officer can not do anything
What?

Sorry but your saying if a policeman tries to flag u down. You can just think sod it and drive off

CuteCorsaAngel I think they can do something

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