Tom
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Originally posted by muppetsport
mate, i couldnt care less if you ran a jet engine, you still broke 12 seconds so thats quality in my eyes. and yes, i agree, you are substituting in a way what i have, a turbo on (basic principles) an xe block for noz. no problems here, as i will be running it aswell later on.
tom, well thats where gear controlable boost comes into play. limit the boost 1st, 2nd, and get it all about 5000rpm upwards in 3rd, aswell as an lsd. should help it a lot. them apexi products are good at what they do
I didn't know you could set it all up different for different gears etc. Sound very clever 
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vibrio
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Originally posted by GAZ`D
Cheer's to SOME of you for your support and inteligent coment's as for the other's your choice be slow but a change of record would be nice the nolans were bad the first time round
NO2 is fine if your a drag racer but for normal every day use it's a gimick to increase power for a short period of time putting extreme stress on the engine. I would rather have a car that had 300hp on tap all the time rather than 250hp with an extra 50hp for a few seconds.
also I fail to understand the first part of your reply. people have opinions about using gas. none of the comments I can see are non-inteligent. they are fact based thoughts
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vibrio
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Originally posted by Tom
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Originally posted by muppetsport
mate, i couldnt care less if you ran a jet engine, you still broke 12 seconds so thats quality in my eyes. and yes, i agree, you are substituting in a way what i have, a turbo on (basic principles) an xe block for noz. no problems here, as i will be running it aswell later on.
tom, well thats where gear controlable boost comes into play. limit the boost 1st, 2nd, and get it all about 5000rpm upwards in 3rd, aswell as an lsd. should help it a lot. them apexi products are good at what they do
I didn't know you could set it all up different for different gears etc. Sound very clever
and a pain to set up lol
the apexi is the best controller you can get you can set it for gears and set boost at 500rpm intervals plus part throttle too.
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GAZ`D
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Sorry i don't think nitrous is flamable it is very cold oxygen the added fuel you put in gives you the power
anything that cools the intake charge will give you more power if the fuel ratio is maintained
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Skinz
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nos is a combination of nitrogen and oxygen its very flammable and even just oxygen in its pure form is very flammable
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Nic Barnes
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tom - not sure how it does it, but my mates turbo'd crx runs an apexi boost controller. he limits it down in 1st and 2nd then gets all 6psi of boost the rest of the gears. ran a 13.9 1/4. aint bad for a boggo crx non v-tec engine with a turbo strapped to it. no low comp pistons or any other engine mods at all
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TNM
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Well done gaz'd.
Hope you are still running the special wheel trims 
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vibrio
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Originally posted by GAZ`D
Sorry i don't think nitrous is flamable it is very cold oxygen the added fuel you put in gives you the power
anything that cools the intake charge will give you more power if the fuel ratio is maintained
my mistake it enhances combustion which means no flames no sparks etc there is also a risk of fire with exploson.
re intake charge power comes from increasing boost on car engines not from the cooling effect of the water.
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Tom
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Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by Tom
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Originally posted by muppetsport
mate, i couldnt care less if you ran a jet engine, you still broke 12 seconds so thats quality in my eyes. and yes, i agree, you are substituting in a way what i have, a turbo on (basic principles) an xe block for noz. no problems here, as i will be running it aswell later on.
tom, well thats where gear controlable boost comes into play. limit the boost 1st, 2nd, and get it all about 5000rpm upwards in 3rd, aswell as an lsd. should help it a lot. them apexi products are good at what they do
I didn't know you could set it all up different for different gears etc. Sound very clever
and a pain to set up lol
the apexi is the best controller you can get you can set it for gears and set boost at 500rpm intervals plus part throttle too.
What do you mean part throttle like a switch that gets knocked when you floor it that will affect how much boost you have available  ??
Suppose it's more useful for 2wd cars then?
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GAZ`D
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Just spoke to wizard of nos and nitrous oxide is NOT flamable they have just made a video to prove this i am no chemist but i think you wil find that oxygen only excelerates the burning of a flamable source but does not burn itself
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Skinz
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NOS is definatly flammable under pressure then?
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Steve
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its deffo flammable as its laughing gas, and my mates mum is a midwife, and we inhaled about 5 bottles of the stuff one night, and when we attempted to include this with smoking we were quite shocked at the results
and a bit burnt
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GAZ`D
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The question i asked was if i open my nos bottle on to a lit lighter what will happen the answer was it will put the flame out.
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GAZ`D
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fast burning of the fags
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Steve
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i was just saying about my experience, we inhaled it then tryed doing a blow back with a mouthfull of gas, and it all ignited with just a lit joint
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Skinz
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for a bird you sound like a tom boy
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Ditch
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geeeeza buuurd Jim
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Ditch
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Originally posted by vibrio
also I fail to understand the first part of your reply. people have opinions about using gas. none of the comments I can see are non-inteligent. they are fact based thoughts
Saying the guy is cheating is waaay out of the scheme of things though really dont you think? What is he cheating at? Where are these rules?
Give him some credit where credit is due!
If you cant / dont want to spend more money on expensive pocketed pistons and even wilder cams... then Nitrous is a perfectly good way of bringing his times down without breaking the bank.
no doubt that little car has had a lot of time, effort, and money put into it to make it what it is, so I think it deserves a little more respect than saying...
"your cheatin mister!"
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vibrio
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Originally posted by Ditch
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Originally posted by vibrio
also I fail to understand the first part of your reply. people have opinions about using gas. none of the comments I can see are non-inteligent. they are fact based thoughts
Saying the guy is cheating is waaay out of the scheme of things though really dont you think? What is he cheating at? Where are these rules?
Give him some credit where credit is due!
If you cant / dont want to spend more money on expensive pocketed pistons and even wilder cams... then Nitrous is a perfectly good way of bringing his times down without breaking the bank.
no doubt that little car has had a lot of time, effort, and money put into it to make it what it is, so I think it deserves a little more respect than saying...
"your cheatin mister!"
NOS is not effort and time though is it. no real thought goes into it. buy the kit, get it fitted with a controller and there you go extra hp for a few second then fill me up again. its not pure which is what people are really trying to say. if you had got into the 12's using normal engine power (N/A or forced) you'd get a lot more respect thats all.
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Steve
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Originally posted by Skinz
for a bird you sound like a tom boy
people tell me this alot 
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GAZ`D
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You have not used a lot of gas have you vibrio putting 150 shot into a car is not a bolt on and go the engine has been modified to suit the gas and it works exactly like a turbo and intercooler forces the engine to take lots of oxygen at lower temps you then up the fuel to bring the fuel to air ratio right giving more power try upping boost without any more fuel and the results are the same meltdown
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Ditch
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Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by Ditch
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Originally posted by vibrio
also I fail to understand the first part of your reply. people have opinions about using gas. none of the comments I can see are non-inteligent. they are fact based thoughts
Saying the guy is cheating is waaay out of the scheme of things though really dont you think? What is he cheating at? Where are these rules?
Give him some credit where credit is due!
If you cant / dont want to spend more money on expensive pocketed pistons and even wilder cams... then Nitrous is a perfectly good way of bringing his times down without breaking the bank.
no doubt that little car has had a lot of time, effort, and money put into it to make it what it is, so I think it deserves a little more respect than saying...
"your cheatin mister!"
NOS is not effort and time though is it. no real thought goes into it. buy the kit, get it fitted with a controller and there you go extra hp for a few second then fill me up again. its not pure which is what people are really trying to say. if you had got into the 12's using normal engine power (N/A or forced) you'd get a lot more respect thats all.
But time and effort HAS gone into the car... Its not like its an XE with 300bhp of Nitrous waiting to pop. Its strengthened, and can flow plenty more air, and the gas is just completing a package.
This car = impressive, no matter what way you look at it!
Most just cant see that as it has a go faster button 
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Ditch
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aahhhhh feck it, Gaz, you done well, you know this!! The migweb support was always going to be more constructive!!
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vibrio
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Originally posted by GAZ`D
You have not used a lot of gas have you vibrio putting 150 shot into a car is not a bolt on and go the engine has been modified to suit the gas and it works exactly like a turbo and intercooler forces the engine to take lots of oxygen at lower temps you then up the fuel to bring the fuel to air ratio right giving more power try upping boost without any more fuel and the results are the same meltdown
of course I ahve not used 150hp jets of NOS I have no need to use cheating gas to improve the performance of my car. and stop trying to teach your gran to suck eggs also
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vibrio
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Originally posted by Ditch
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Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by Ditch
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Originally posted by vibrio
also I fail to understand the first part of your reply. people have opinions about using gas. none of the comments I can see are non-inteligent. they are fact based thoughts
Saying the guy is cheating is waaay out of the scheme of things though really dont you think? What is he cheating at? Where are these rules?
Give him some credit where credit is due!
If you cant / dont want to spend more money on expensive pocketed pistons and even wilder cams... then Nitrous is a perfectly good way of bringing his times down without breaking the bank.
no doubt that little car has had a lot of time, effort, and money put into it to make it what it is, so I think it deserves a little more respect than saying...
"your cheatin mister!"
NOS is not effort and time though is it. no real thought goes into it. buy the kit, get it fitted with a controller and there you go extra hp for a few second then fill me up again. its not pure which is what people are really trying to say. if you had got into the 12's using normal engine power (N/A or forced) you'd get a lot more respect thats all.
But time and effort HAS gone into the car... Its not like its an XE with 300bhp of Nitrous waiting to pop. Its strengthened, and can flow plenty more air, and the gas is just completing a package.
This car = impressive, no matter what way you look at it!
Most just cant see that as it has a go faster button
not impressive in my eyes.
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