big eck
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Originally posted by Corsa_Sam
did it occur to u that craigs might have been off aswell? 
so any factors can swing the result, air temperature/pressure, tyre heat/pressure and so on
[Edited on 28-01-2006 by Corsa_Sam]
did it occur to you that it might not
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Dave A
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Originally posted by big eck
it aint that far fetched is it, craigpcg's XE made 167bhp with just a s/s exhaust and an induction kit so one with a ported & polished head and fast road cams must be a good 15bhp+ more
well, you dont gain 17 bhp from an exhaust and filter in the first place, so the 167 figure is bullshoot to start with.
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big eck
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Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by big eck
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Originally posted by BeArDy
 that roller is well off
180bhp on a standard XE
a XE with twin Carbs will make 180bhp on a RR but if they took it there would prob make 220bhp
take them numbers with a pinch of salt mate
it aint that far fetched is it, craigpcg's XE made 167bhp with just a s/s exhaust and an induction kit so one with a ported & polished head and fast road cams must be a good 15bhp+ more
and claire's car with all the mods it has made????
very good point ross but we have since found out the the head and cams it it has on it now are standard, we took it to Yug performance (falkirk company) and the fella confirmed this
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big eck
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Originally posted by corsa808
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Originally posted by big eck
it aint that far fetched is it, craigpcg's XE made 167bhp with just a s/s exhaust and an induction kit so one with a ported & polished head and fast road cams must be a good 15bhp+ more
well, you dont gain 17 bhp from an exhaust and filter in the first place, so the 167 figure is bullshoot to start with.
I made 159bhp so I take it thats shit aswell
why is it that when people doubt power claims and even though the folk have proof of the power of they're car people still doubt them 
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Originally posted by corsa808
did you take the time to do that , then photo it, upload it, and post it just for this thread?
love it!
oh, and those figures are bollox by the way. a lot of rolling road places will give you higher figures so that everyone is smiling and think that its been a great day and are happy with the service....... then think the place is great and come back time and time again spending more money.
thats why i drive 160 miles to noble motorsport to gem mine mapped and set up. they are honest and will tell you if your car is running shoot.
exactly
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bubble
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my xe has headwork,high lift cams,system and shoot filter. mine apparently is 165bhp. is this about right?
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big eck
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Originally posted by bubblevaux
my xe has headwork,high lift cams,system and shoot filter. mine apparently is 165bhp. is this about right?
if it was RR'd it not apparently 
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Originally posted by big eck
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Originally posted by bubblevaux
my xe has headwork,high lift cams,system and shoot filter. mine apparently is 165bhp. is this about right?
if it was RR'd it not apparently
yeah it was RR'd. so is that way out?
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mav
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craigs was done on falkland Performance RR which had standard CTR etc's putting out standard figures. My T4 also put out 199bhp which is 1 bhp down on standard so think their rollers are pretty accurate.
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Originally posted by bubblevaux
my xe has headwork,high lift cams,system and shoot filter. mine apparently is 165bhp. is this about right?
dedending on the cams, a 15 bhp gain is possible with a system, headwork and filter.
so that makes the claim of 167 with just a exhaust and filter look stupid.
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Originally posted by corsa808
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Originally posted by bubblevaux
my xe has headwork,high lift cams,system and shoot filter. mine apparently is 165bhp. is this about right?
dedending on the cams, a 15 bhp gain is possible with a system, headwork and filter.
so that makes the claim of 167 with just a exhaust and filter look stupid.
thank you please. i got it rr'd same day as my mate got his standard 1.4 rr'd. that came out at 89bhp
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big eck
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Originally posted by mav
craigs was done on falkland Performance RR which had standard CTR etc's putting out standard figures. My T4 also put out 199bhp which is 1 bhp down on standard so think their rollers are pretty accurate.
people will still claim the rollers are off 
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mav
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no doubt
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justrials2
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so how do we know the rollers are right or not
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justrials2
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i have had the head ported an polished so is it imposible to go over 180 with out goin to carbs or tbs
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mav
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see a standard car on the rollers and see if it gets book figures...
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Dave A
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Originally posted by justrials2
so how do we know the rollers are right or not
well they obviously are not right. 180bhp is not possible with those mods. read beardys comment again! carbs or tb's are needed to get that sort of power. possibly 165- 170 with the mods on it.
and look at the fact that a 1.4 16v on standard inlet made 108 bhp.
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we had 3 car on the rollers an they where standard an al came out with eather 1 or 2 bhp more then a lad went on with his bravo 2.0 20v an he was down on power cos he has had alot of trouble with his coil packs
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Dave A
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whats been done to the 1.4 16v corsa to get 108 bhp then
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Steve
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system and induction kit
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Originally posted by corsa808
whats been done to the 1.4 16v corsa to get 108 bhp then
was put on a doggy RR
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Dave A
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nice one vibs
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Jas
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Originally posted by corsa808
whats been done to the 1.4 16v corsa to get 108 bhp then
im having a x14xe soon...
with inlet,cams, viper, system decat etc... and im only hoping.. i say hoping for a similar figure!
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Nismo
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Originally posted by corsa808
thats why i drive 160 miles to noble motorsport to gem mine mapped and set up. they are honest and will tell you if your car is running shoot.
Get it mapped out on the road, use a datalogic system, RR still dont map aswell as doing it on the road.
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justrials2
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Red20 Trust me the rolling road is spot on.
Its regulary calibrated an no one has ever questioned the results.
If they seen the technology that's attached to Peco's 1000bhp Dyno Jet Rolling Road
i doubt they would question any part of it.
Dont forget dave the technician?
He has been doing rolling roads for years and years, and before he joined peco.
He know's if somethings not right
He diagnosed a problem with steds car just by looking at the graph as it died before it peaked.
Between Dave and the Rollers and the computer,
there is no chance of a miss reading in my opinon.
As we said on the day,
if you sorted your tappets out it would have got higher.
I guess they just cant believe it can be done.
I will host more pics with graphs in the morning,
i'm wiped out...
But it was an excellent day and anyone that
missed it did miss it.
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