Robin
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR
V6 is heavier than an XE. It has two complete blocks and heads compared to the XE's one block and one head.
It has two more pistons, two more rods, a longer crank, a bigger gearbox, more camshaft weight. Its heavy.
Throttle bodies won't fit a V6 in a corsa, not without serious bonnet mods.
two complete blocks? where did that come from? the v6 block is shorter than the XE block, and isnt anything like 2 blocks
yes there are 2 heads, and 2 extra cams, but its definitely not like having 2 blocks
crank, again, is shorter, or the same
gearbox? ok, the F25 is heavy, but its no different to using an F28 on an LET, and I dont see you complaining about the weight of the gearbox on Donna's. anyway, you can use the F20, it will more than cope with the torque of the V6, or if you were feeling adventurous, an F16, or even an F18
and they will fit in the corsa bay, theres loads of room
at least TRY to know what you are talking about
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Greg_M
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IMO
XE
+loads of knowledge about the engine and conversion into corsa
+engine cheepish
+off the shelf conversion kit
- Loads of them about
- Milage of engine quite high
V6
+more unique but still quite a few
+THE SOUND
- smaller knoweldge base although quite a bit
- all mounts ect are one off
- repair bills
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ackers2302
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sorry to be the bearer of bad news andy, but where you guna find 3k?
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Corsa E-Tec
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quote:
Originally posted by Greg_M
IMO
XE
+loads of knowledge about the engine and conversion into corsa
+engine cheepish
+off the shelf conversion kit
- Loads of them about
- Milage of engine quite high
V6
+more unique but still quite a few
+THE SOUND
- smaller knoweldge base although quite a bit
- all mounts ect are one off
- repair bills
sums it up all hear as well as other posts.
C20xe
more knowledge
easier conversion
easier to fix
not hard to find replacements
any one can fit them
lots of tuning potential
and cheap, even if it blows just another £500 spent or cheaper 
dont know much about the V6's 
[Edited on 25-05-2006 by Corsa E-Tec]
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Twiggy
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every fucker has XE Go V6!!!
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broster
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR
a longer crank,
the crank is actually shorter.
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Daimo B
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quote:
Originally posted by robmarriott
two complete blocks? where did that come from? the v6 block is shorter than the XE block, and isnt anything like 2 blocks
yes there are 2 heads, and 2 extra cams, but its definitely not like having 2 blocks
crank, again, is shorter, or the same
gearbox? ok, the F25 is heavy, but its no different to using an F28 on an LET, and I dont see you complaining about the weight of the gearbox on Donna's. anyway, you can use the F20, it will more than cope with the torque of the V6, or if you were feeling adventurous, an F16, or even an F18
and they will fit in the corsa bay, theres loads of room
at least TRY to know what you are talking about
Whats with the attitude??  I do know what im talking about thanks, do you???????
2 blocks, 2 sets of piston chambers, 3 pistons in each, thats what makes it a V engine \ and / being the blocks..... I never said anything about length of those two blocks, i meant materials used. The heads are the top part of the engine that house the cams, valves etc... If the V6 hasn't got 2 blocks, where do the pistons go up and down??????
Do you hear me complaining about Donnas? Its sh1te to drive in terms of weight and handling. I've never ever said otherwise. She has those KW (?) coilovers and i've said from day 1 they were a terrible setup. But why bring that into it anyway?
I've never said the V6 would not fit. I said its too big for the engine bay. Visually, and weight wise.
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Daimo B
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quote:
Originally posted by broster
the crank is actually shorter.
Ahhhhh
Never knew the cranks and stroke on a V6 was shorter. Im not clued up on V6 VX engines as i've never found them any good, especially compared to opposition engines.
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schoey
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V6 mate all the way.
Just a couple of things id like to mention that ive picked up from within the thread.
- There is a supercharged v6 in lincoln now.
- The mounts are the same as an xe bar the front mount which is still very similar.
- These things pull an omega/cav quite well, with a shite gearbox on them, so imagine them in a car half the weight with a decent gearbox on them. The corsa puts no strain on them.
If you want to speak to fozzy at powercrazy u2u me and ill sort something out for you.
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Marc
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I thought there were "kind of" 2 blocks too 
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FasT09
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jus a random question about this topic. how much difference is the insurance between xe let and v6? on average?
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loo_goblin
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has any one got a pic of the eninge in a bay without the engine cover on??
just intrested to see
V6 would sound awesome, but i would get a LET
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mwg
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Do people put the Veccy 2.5 V6 in? Its more powerful than the Cav engine but the only 2.5s I've ever seen in Corsas are Cav ones?
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schoey
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insurance on a 2.5 is very little more than an xe.
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schoey
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quote:
Originally posted by Matty G
Do people put the Veccy 2.5 V6 in? Its more powerful than the Cav engine but the only 2.5s I've ever seen in Corsas are Cav ones?
you can use the veccy one, but you need to use the cav inlet to make it fit.
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Daimo B
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quote:
Originally posted by Marc
I thought there were "kind of" 2 blocks too
Same as your Scooby engine. Its a horrizontally (?sp) opposed engine. Thus 2 pistons are on one side, the other 2 on the other side (in a scoobys case, side to side instead of up and down). Both those sets of pistons needs something to travel in, and these are the blocks.
You will have 2 blocks on a Scooby. V6 have two blocks, V10s have two blocks. A C20LET or an X16XE will have 1 block (4 pistons going up and down in one block of chambers).
A radial engine (as in old prop engined planes) will have 8+ blocks (or depending how many cyclinders it has).
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C0RS4 C
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quote:
Originally posted by loo_goblin
has any one got a pic of the eninge in a bay without the engine cover on??
just intrested to see
V6 would sound awesome, but i would get a LET [/quote
[Edited on 25-05-2006 by C0RS4 C]
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Ajones_17
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Seems like there is lots of cons that i didnt think of tbh.
Beardy has pointed quite a few out and as much knowledge as others have Rob/Broster etc, I would put his advice over everyone elses.
I'm not massively concerned about being different to others as the outside of my car deals with that.
I was just thinkin hat i want something a bit quicker than an XE tbh.
I know power crazy in Lincoln do a drive in drve out conversion for 3k but i didnt realise the LET could be done for as litle as this. Plus wouldnt i be needing to look at Diff's and the like to get the power of the LET down down?
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loo_goblin
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mate u do need diffs for a LET i would, absolute whore to get 200+bhp down on a fwd car
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RichR
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My personal opinion would be not to bother - surely the money you'd be spending would be betetr off oging into a newer, better as standard car? is this going to be an everyday car or a weekend/show car?
for an everyday get you to work and back - I really wouldnt bother; the 1.6 will suffice - then save up and get something better as standard
Niks 350Z has just inspired em to look at what you can get for £10k - £20k
and some are really suprising - plus insurance isnt too bad
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Ajones_17
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I appreciate your advice mate, but i've set my heart on finishing my corsa now. Its probably gonna be an everyday car more than anything.
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Robin
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Sorry Daimo, but its not 2 seperate blocks, its one complete block, this is where the confusion has cropped up between us
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Fad
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quote:
Originally posted by loo_goblin
mate u do need diffs for a LET i would, absolute whore to get 200+bhp down on a fwd car
To be fair mate even with a Diff its hard to get the power down, so there is an element of skill to launch the car as it just ends up with both the wheels spinning rather than the one with the short shaft.....try a phas 3.5 LEt in a Nova thats interesting 
Also i wouldnt get a diff unless you love erratic driving and fighting the steering wheel on roundabouts...if it was my daily drive I wouldnt
plus if you want something quicker than an XE (back to the thread) get a LET....can imagine a V6 is quite nice to drive tho
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Ajones_17
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I was thinking this myself Fad, but after finding out i can get a LET fitted for same price as a V6 and the LET will clearly be quicker, it makes sense to do that.
i wouldnt want massive power just standard engine with a couple of usual mods, exhaust filter, remap etc
Wouldnt wanna go for big power really
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Fad
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well do a a semi rebuild when you put it in to eleminate some of the running in teething problem and keep it reletively standard...plenty of fun and reliable too, also could proberly see off some big power LETs at he pod down to traction and driveability
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