Carl
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to be fair, a long wheel based high roof fiat ducato van probably handles better than a corsa in standard form. 
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Fad
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my 1.4 16 sport never got beat buy one vtr. A got spanked buy vts until a put the dbilas manifold on
Bullshit a VTR is quicker than a 1.6 16v sport
is it fuck 
Dont be patronising i've driven both on a daily basis
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Eck
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All depends on what VTR, newer style VTR would take a 1.6 sport. But you're friends telling porkies about it being fastest 1.6 
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mikey-corsa
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Nova GTE is quite abit quicker, and can't u get RS Turbo's at a 1.6 aswell?
also, like the others said a VTS is quicker.
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Cybermonkey
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Originally posted by Fad
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Originally posted by Fad
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Originally posted by Deeky
my 1.4 16 sport never got beat buy one vtr. A got spanked buy vts until a put the dbilas manifold on
Bullshit a VTR is quicker than a 1.6 16v sport
is it fuck
Dont be patronising i've driven both on a daily basis
and i have pulled away from too many VTR's in my time to say they are quicker than a 1.6
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Cybermonkey
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Saxo's and Pugs have the same chasis which is based on the rear torsion bar. I beleive this gives the french cars an upper hand on the corsa's. Also they are sightly smaller( well the pug is ) and also lighter.
The fact that they rev to a slightly higher range can also help with the 0-60 times ( as long as you shift at the right times )
why does everyone go on about the lightness thing so much? yeah they are lighter, but we are only talking about 50-60kg here...
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gunzi
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Taken from Parkers:
Saxo VTR 920kgs
Corsa 1.4 Sport 989kgs
I'd give the french car the upper hand in std trim, especially as the later VTRs came with 100bhp.
90bhp saxo = 97bhp / tonne
100bhp saxo = 108bhp/tonne
90bhp corsa = 91bhp/tonne
Obviously this is not taking into account the VTS & 1.6 sport.
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Ojc
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I found that off the line there is nothing in it, once rolling the 1.6 16v pulls away.
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Toby
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my mates vtr is only a little faster than my 1.4 sport cant notice when driving them indpendantly but its more on insurance, petrol and its french so not worth the hassle
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Carl
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my mates vtr is only a little faster than my 1.4 sport cant notice when driving them indpendantly but its more on insurance, petrol and its french so not worth the hassle
it goes around corners though, think thats a pretty big bonus when comparing the two imo. if the vtr is slower than the 1.6 corsa i'm pretty sure it would be faster round corners which most tracks/roads have these days.
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Andyrs1800
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EK9=KING but they dont have much torque, but still the best na 1.6.
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Andyrs1800
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[Edited on 07-08-2006 by Andyrs1800]
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Andyrs1800
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But at the end of the day who cares how fast a vtr is... they used to be a bit of a worry when i had the 1.4 engine, but now i have the 2.0 its sweet, there is allways sum1 with a faster car, its all personal taste,
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Deeky
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Exactly mate 90 bhp couldnt pull your foreskin back so who cares
[Edited on 07-08-2006 by Deeky]
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Gaz
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VTr's are quick off the mark but then die,
My 1.6 will beat them and i wouldnt say my car was even running fast..
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Fad
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You lot are all corsa owners who are Biased unless you've driven both regularly you have no clue nor are qualified to comment.
I've driven several 1.6 sports and even owned a 1.4 16v, my brother has a 100 bhp Saxo VTR and i get to drive this regularly. A 1.4 16v sport has no chance so who ever reckons they can beat a VTR in that, your just dreaming or the the VTR was pitying you.
As for 1.6 corsas its the same deal no way are they quicker than a VTr running a 1.6 TU lump...A saxo VTR with a exhaust and filter can run a high 15 sec standing quarter at the Pod and Corsa Sports will be lucky to ge sub 17 with these mods.....
Also the Saxo has one major cad over the Corsa...its a hoot to drive and everytime i drive it, it makes me smile.
Evo rated this car in the top 5 drivers hot hatches and clearly they have driven many cars and know their stuff.
I used to be the same a Saxo hater and was adement that sports were quicker due to what was printed on paper but i was sooo wrong it was unreal. You guys can keep arging all you like but face the real facts mentioned here.
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Steve
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i agree with fad, why is everyone willing to talk utter crap just because they own a vauxhall corsa
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TIMBO1
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not being funny bt people are so quick to comment on how saxo owners think rhere cars are unbeatable and the fastest things around , lol , some need to look a bit closer to home
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Steve
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there are many saxo owners that think there cars are a lot faster than others i agree
im telling you, and i dont own a saxo that a vtr will be faster than a 1400 sport and pretty much equal to a 1600 sport
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big eck
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I always thought the EK9 type R was a 2ltr
as for the saxo Vs corsa thing I cant comment on the VTR however I can comment on the handling as my 106 gti handles sooo much better than my corsa did and aint to far of speed wise, infact there pretty much equal.
The wifes GTI outhandles my mates old 2ltr corsa and that was fitted with Bilstein coilovers
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Jake
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When i had a little race with a phase1 Vtr I started pulling away at about 80mph. I also had a race with a C2 VTR and we were pretty much level but i started pulling away downhill
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Cybermonkey
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Originally posted by Fad
You lot are all corsa owners who are Biased unless you've driven both regularly you have no clue nor are qualified to comment.
I've driven several 1.6 sports and even owned a 1.4 16v, my brother has a 100 bhp Saxo VTR and i get to drive this regularly. A 1.4 16v sport has no chance so who ever reckons they can beat a VTR in that, your just dreaming or the the VTR was pitying you.
As for 1.6 corsas its the same deal no way are they quicker than a VTr running a 1.6 TU lump...A saxo VTR with a exhaust and filter can run a high 15 sec standing quarter at the Pod and Corsa Sports will be lucky to ge sub 17 with these mods.....
Also the Saxo has one major cad over the Corsa...its a hoot to drive and everytime i drive it, it makes me smile.
Evo rated this car in the top 5 drivers hot hatches and clearly they have driven many cars and know their stuff.
I used to be the same a Saxo hater and was adement that sports were quicker due to what was printed on paper but i was sooo wrong it was unreal. You guys can keep arging all you like but face the real facts mentioned here.
same situation, had a 1.6 Sport for about 8 months, my mum had a VTR for about a year, i drove that fairly regularly. you are getting some placebo effect from the instant whack that the 8v gives off the line, once rolling though, the Corsa reels it in no problem.
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Steve
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did your maw have 90bhp or 100bhp model?
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Cybermonkey
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100, it was a facelife 52plate
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Steve
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then how did you reel it in with 0 bhp advantage and any torque wouldnt make any difference due to the lighterness of the paxo?
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