Carl
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we need a sticky thread regarding corsa gsi's being no competition for the 106gti. It gets tedious!
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Scoty B
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da powahbox as dat wikid dump valv thingy innit, you ave to drill some olez in it, den get down to yer halfords and doo sum andbrake turnz innit
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csweatherston
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oh dear god.........
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Dave A
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Originally posted by Carl
we need a sticky thread regarding corsa gsi's being no competition for the 106gti. It gets tedious!
mine is good competition for one
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Carl
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yours is heavily tuned though come up against a spec'd up 106 its likely it will same out come, the 106 is always going to have a better handlind chassis.
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Dave A
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the skills of the driver are 10x more important than the chassis design.
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Fad
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Originally posted by Teddy
My Stipped 1.6 Sport is on the money of VTS/Gti.
bhp and weight please?
I'd like to know this also as a stripped out 1.6 corsa has no chance of breaking into the late 15's where as a VTR 1.6 8v with just the back seats taken out can
VTS with just an exhaust and filter will run a 14.9 no sweat.
My brothers 1.6 8v is quicker than a 1.6 16v corsa by quite a stretch, put another body in the Saxo and then it may be closer.
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Warren G
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what makes these french 1.6's for much better than the 1.6 corsa? eg why can a less powerful 8v beat a 10bhp more powerful 16v corsa. is it weight, gearing or just good engine?
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Fad
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Originally posted by warren.g
what makes these french 1.6's for much better than the 1.6 corsa? eg why can a less powerful 8v beat a 10bhp more powerful 16v corsa. is it weight, gearing or just good engine?
Just a different type of engine also in characteristics such as the power band etc Power to weight ratio helps the Saxo
French hot hatches are better in the sense of drieabilty and the fact they go round the twisties with grace Corsa are better in the sense of build quality and reliability. Just depends on what floats your boat.
[Edited on 18-09-2006 by Fad]
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Steve
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Originally posted by Fad
Corsa are better in the sense of build quality and reliability. Just depends on what floats your boat.
[Edited on 18-09-2006 by Fad]
i wouldnt even give them that TBH, my corsa(s) iv owned were 10x more unreliable then my 106gti, and more bits fell off, plastic archs etc etc
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Robin
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Teddy, where did your engine find 12bhp?
like i say, my 130bhp 860kg corsa would not keep up with a Gti with an exhaust and filter.
thats in a straight line, and on the twisties. the Gti is much, much better at both.
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Robin
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oh, maybe mine weighed less than 860kg if teddys weighs 835 with standard front seats, a stereo with 2 speakers, and electric windows and mirrors. 
lets say 815kg?
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Steve
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the panels maybe thinner etc but that doesnt really mean its built any worse, the engines are definatly stronger, and even the interior trim wasnt really any wrose, i could pull the knobs off my corsa with my fingers ffs
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Robin
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couldnt in mine, maybe you had a friday afternoon car.
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neiliosxi
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Originally posted by Steve
the panels maybe thinner etc but that doesnt really mean its built any worse, the engines are definatly stronger, and even the interior trim wasnt really any wrose, i could pull the knobs off my corsa with my fingers ffs
I have to admit they do rattle a wee bit sometimes!!!
But it has comfy heavy leather interior 
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Teddy
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Originally posted by robmarriott
Teddy, where did your engine find 12bhp?
like i say, my 130bhp 860kg corsa would not keep up with a Gti with an exhaust and filter.
thats in a straight line, and on the twisties. the Gti is much, much better at both.
Been playing
More to the point who mentioned speakers or stereo now? 
Or dashboard?
More to the point - i have a couple of plays in "normal road conditions" and there has been nothing between myself and a VTS or GTi.
Thats MY ON ROAD EXPERIENCE.
Slate it if you will i dont care
[Edited on 18-09-2006 by Teddy]
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Carl
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Originally posted by Dave A
the skills of the driver are 10x more important than the chassis design.
thats just another variable, my arguement is based on the same person with the same amout of skill, driving both.
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Robin
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seriously though, mine was weighed at 900kg with electric windows, Standard seats, a stereo and speakers.
then without any of them, and with buckets and no door looms, its was 860.
there is no way you lost 25kg over mine by removing the boot lifters.
and 12bhp? got a new inlet manifold?
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Steve
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Originally posted by robmarriott
couldnt in mine, maybe you had a friday afternoon car.
2 friday afternoon cars? and all my mates? nah they all do it if you pull hard enough
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JadeM
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I dont see the point of argueing 'my stripped & tuned corsa 1.6 16v will beat a standard 106 1.6 16v' because the same done to the other car will have the opposite effect!!
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Steve
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indeed my thoughts, sme goes for sticking 2 litre engines in
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Robin
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exactly. and my point is that it won't anyway.
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Marc
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You could say that about tuned Corsas beating faster cars though couldn't you! 
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Teddy
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Rob -
I have made the changes above and had it weighed in Luton.
Thats the figure i was told.
The car was RR'd at PTS 2 weeks ago putting out 118, few little tweeks, nothing major.
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Steve
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RR's might aswell be figures plucked out the air TBH, the figure can vary up to 10bhp either way just on ambient air temperature alone, IMO RR's are only useful for comparing a change in modification on the same day in same conditions
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