BabyBlade
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It's arguements like this that can last forever and still get no where..
The main arguement seems to be that the XR2 is not worth 22k, and lets face it its not. Someone might pay 22k for it but in parts I dont think so.
Exactly. There are those of you who think it isn't worth it. But there is a few of us who think it is worth it. So it would be pointless to argue over it. I however think it is worth it because that, in theory, could be the lowest mileage on an original mk1 on this planet. And there are a lot of cars on this planet 
I'd say the odds of it being the lowest mileage XR2 are very high* and yes there are a lot on this planet.
Of course thats if it hasnt been clocked, had new dash, gone around the clocks etc etc
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Colin
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£22k is alot of money for an old ford & still not met the reserve  I dont get it & probably 99.9% of people wont either but theres sure to be a blue badge lover (with no friends & smells of cat wee)somewhere with too much money wanking over ebay at it!
Wonder what the reserve is
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Colin
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Wasnt there an Escort cossie with delivery mileage for sale about a year or so ago....£30k if I remember correctly!!
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Jules S
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Lets face it....there are two (or three) trains of thought here
1/. People that dont have 22k who like the idea of an old old Ford and fantasise that it would be worth 22k if they had the dosh
2/. People that have 22k but have more sense and would buy a porker
Alternatively
3/. People/museum that have a fair few £££ and would let the car stagnate further.
But hey...it didn't sell.
So don't ask me  I'm right somewhere above
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Steve
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your not paying for the car, your paying for a museum ornament, i dont however think a mk1 fiesta holds a high enough icon status for its auction antique value to be worth even half that
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Robin
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Originally posted by Jules S
2/. People that have 22k but have more sense and would buy a porker
but what makes a porsche worth 22k?
or like I said before, a VW camper?
The car is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.
David Beckhams M3 convertible sold for 90k, was it worth it? yes, as it sold for it...
Auctions frequently sell cars for silly amounts, just because they're special in some way, and this is no different.
If someone wants it, it's worth whatever they will pay.
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Steve
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so as the fiesta never sold at 22k then its not worth it?
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Robin
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how do you know it didnt sell?
the auction ended early for an unspecified reason, who's to say he didnt get an offer of £30k and accepted it?
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BabyBlade
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I'd say in a case like this the cars only worth what the reserve price is, and its obviously worth more to the owner, keeping it in his garage in a bubble than it does to anyone else
Maybe in another 23 years
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Colin
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I could understand a Escort Cossie or RS500, even an S1 Turbo with 200 miles selling for £30k....but not an xr2.
I agree though there will be some sad sack interested in splashing out on it, obviously more money than sense!!
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Robin
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Thing is, to me a brand new motorbike isn't worth 10k, but people pay for them...
If this was a mint condition, rarely ridden norton motorcycle, it'd be worth just as much...
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Originally posted by Jules S
2/. People that have 22k but have more sense and would buy a porker
but what makes a porsche worth 22k?
or like I said before, a VW camper?
The car is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.
David Beckhams M3 convertible sold for 90k, was it worth it? yes, as it sold for it...
Auctions frequently sell cars for silly amounts, just because they're special in some way, and this is no different.
If someone wants it, it's worth whatever they will pay.
A porker is worth 22k given residuals mate...
Campervans ive not see for 22k.... even spotless and they are a collectors piece, not a uk hot hatch
If it was Beckams M3 (doubtable) made 90k (doubtable) I will stand corrected.
Over to you 
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Robin
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corrected you shall stand
http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/cars/s/142/142157_take_bends_like_beckham.html
(pic is wrong, its an E36 evo cab, in estoril blue)
http://pages.ebay.co.uk/community/aboutebay/news/pressreleases/motors/1_18_2005.html
23 window safari campers sell for silly money, and they're just a van with windows and a beetle engine...
[Edited on 26-11-2006 by Robin]
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BabyBlade
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Originally posted by Robin
Thing is, to me a brand new motorbike isn't worth 10k, but people pay for them...
If this was a mint condition, rarely ridden norton motorcycle, it'd be worth just as much...
There is a difference though..
There is a market for old British motorbikes, their a part of British engineering..
It will be a very nice bike for 10k as the 07 CBR1000 will be 8k.. If your into bikes you'd realise even 8k for a brand new top of the range, top spec japanese motorbike is worth it.
However older bikes for a lot less money will give out the same fun factor if ridden properly IMO just for the fun factor
I would take this thread a lot more seriously but its an XR2, there are more sought after Fords i.e Cossies and even turbo's than XR2's
That is where a Ford Enthusiast would want to put his/her money IMO, before you say it I know a cars worth what people will pay for it and there are going to be the odd exceptions.
I'm going to try to resist posting now because the auctions finished and the majority in this thread can see the logical view on this subject.
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Robin
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There's a market for Classic Fords.
Mk1 XR2s are VERY sought after, more so than RS Turbos.
But obviously its worth nothing, because its only a Fiesta.
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Robin
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according to Passionford, and the UK XROC, the chap who owns it was offered 25k by Ford USA, a while ago, and refused it, as it's not an American car.
The car was damaged at a dealers when new, and had a new rear bumper, then went straight to the Ford Heritage centre, where it was until earlier this year...
25k offer, turned down... so, it IS worth that...
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BabyBlade
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If I offered him 30k when I was drunk would it be worth that 
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BabyBlade
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Ok found something which will clearly show where we differ, going on the 10k motorbike thing..
click here.
I almost lost my load, and one day I really hope I own one of those bikes
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Robin
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but its only a VFR.
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BabyBlade
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I know 
Can't believe he turned down 25k for it..
Willing to bet his reserve was 30something
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Robin
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I think he would have accepted 25k if it went to somewhere in the UK. he was just a bit dubious about giving it to americans, who never had the car available to them.
he probably got offered 25-30k from a private collector, wanting to avoid the fees. 
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The reason most people on here say it isn't worth £30k is because most people don't have the money to consider spending that on a car. Let alone a Fiesta which costs that much. It's a collectors item, they are worth silly money to some people.
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Steve
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iirc there was an almost new nova going on ebay a whileack, it to had only done a few hundred miles, but that went few 1.5k, whats the diff?
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link steve? and unless the Nova was a Sport, you are barking up the wrong tree
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