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Ojc
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27th Nov 06 at 09:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Trouble is I agree with you Ian, personally I would take the deal, but that is why Rach is better with money than me, she hates to have to loose money on something, and this is why she could afford the GSi in the first place

I will ring her in a bit, get her to ring Vauxhall back and get them to offer 8.5k.
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27th Nov 06 at 09:50   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

either way your going to lose money doing what you are doing

how does she expect to trade in a car that is older and worth less and lose no money
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27th Nov 06 at 09:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ask for 9k. if they say yes to 8.5 you will always wonder how far they would have gone

its far easier to work down than trying to get the price up once they agree. worst they can say is no.
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27th Nov 06 at 09:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'd say fuck it and take the part ex as it'll pay off the existing loan on the GSi and means no hassle of trying to sell privately. Alot easier all round.
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27th Nov 06 at 09:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
I got 11k for my coupe, there was one on the forecourt for 10995.


Steve, read.
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how does that compare to your situation? your changing it for a new car not one that is the same.

Besides the one of the forecourt mustve been in bad condition, they wouldve had ians up for more, noway would a dealer do a deal to lose money
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27th Nov 06 at 10:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

You would be suprised. The VXR they still stand to make money on because that would have been a trade in as well.
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27th Nov 06 at 10:06   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

oliver there is no way you will trade and old model in for something that is newer and is of equivalent status in the range and not lose money sorry, if you can il be impressed
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27th Nov 06 at 10:07   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

the astras book price is almost half that of the car you are looking at
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27th Nov 06 at 10:22   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i mean, how much did you pay for the car in the first place? lets say 8k for arguments sake, well you will have been paying a total of around £10-11k depending on rate due to interest.

So even if you sell it for what you paid for it off the dealer (unlikely due to it being older and the fact dealers prices are always hgher than private) then your still down on money you would have been paying through the interest.

I personally thnk you should take a good deal when you get it, whats the point trying to scrounge back 100 quid her 50 quid there?
Ojc
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27th Nov 06 at 10:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Her car cost 10k, privately its worth between 9-9.5k

The VXR is 18k
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I would personally keep the GSi you already have & save the money you would waste on that new VXR for a nice deposit on a house for all the hassle it's worth as it would be a much better investment IMO.
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House we have discussed and can do at any time, we don't want to do that yet.
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27th Nov 06 at 10:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

you both must have more money than sense or earning way too much
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Buy it, it'll annoy Steve
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We don't earn lots TBH, we just live at home and have little outgoings.
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quote:
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Buy it, it'll annoy Steve


Yes, he always seems to start flapping when I suggest buying a new car.
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27th Nov 06 at 10:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Best off getting a nice new car now before you get a house IMO.
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quote:
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Best off getting a nice new car now before you get a house IMO.


It was this, we either get a nice car or move out, moving out is a big step and we don't wanna do that yet.
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Best off getting a nice new car now before you get a house IMO.


I would prefer the other way round TBH. You can't live in your car

But each to their own
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quote:
Originally posted by d_jay50
quote:
Originally posted by Matty G
Best off getting a nice new car now before you get a house IMO.


I would prefer the other way round TBH. You can't live in your car

But each to their own


Aye but unless you are earning alot of money its unlikely you are going to be able to afford a nice house and a nice car. So I'd get a nice car now while I am young, then get a house at a later point. Only live once!
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27th Nov 06 at 11:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

terrible terrible market at the moment for cars. I'd take the 8k no questions asked.
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Matt H
Buy it, it'll annoy Steve


Yes, he always seems to start flapping when I suggest buying a new car.


steve flaps at anything he doesnt understand, then pretends to understand. he spoils good threads with his flapping
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27th Nov 06 at 11:31   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
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Besides the one of the forecourt mustve been in bad condition, they wouldve had ians up for more, noway would a dealer do a deal to lose money
Worse condition than one of my trade-ins? You've seen the videos?

I also got a turbo for the price of the model below and every option free.

It was also the last Sunday of the month about this time of year. If its such a bad market, VXRs mustn't be moving either.

Tell him your deal, if they refuse then oh well you still have a nice car. I actually met the guy who was the sales manager at the time I bought my Astra working in a different dealership when I went to look at the Monaro. I've told this story but I'll tell it again. He said 'you bought that car in Preston, we lost money to sell a car, we thought the figures you had made up were so low you had picked them out the sky knowing nothing about the deal so we wrote them on the form anyway not thinking you were going to sign.'

They then offered me 9 for mine against the Monaro at 19. I said so if I come in with 10 we'll go ahead. Yes he said. Sound, says I, I'll come in with 9. I didn't buy the car. Would have been cheap if I did though. I liked that car as well
Ojc
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27th Nov 06 at 11:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Rachel is stubbon, I've told her to ring them ask for 8.5k and we will sign on the dotted line, she won't do it She wants more, women

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