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Tom

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12th Feb 07 at 10:59

I think given would be immense behind a world class bunch of defenders but he's at newcastle

Mad Moe

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12th Feb 07 at 11:03

quote:
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I think given would be immense behind a world class bunch of defenders but he's at newcastle

Which was one of my points, put Given infornt of any of the top 4 defences and he would be regarded as one of the best keepers in the world.

Cosmo I stand corrected on Reina, I haven't really seen too much of him other than the odd game and a couple of absolute howlers I seem to remember

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12th Feb 07 at 11:07

I'm sure he would but for Newcatsle, same as Robbo for Leeds, he makes mistakes... they may not always be his fault but he does make mistakles none the less

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12th Feb 07 at 11:11

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I'm sure he would but for Newcatsle, same as Robbo for Leeds, he makes mistakes... they may not always be his fault but he does make mistakles none the less

Name me a keeper that doesn't, I've seen Jens has made a hell of a lot more unforced errors than Given has.

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12th Feb 07 at 12:04

Nish

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12th Feb 07 at 12:26

given is a top keeper, it's blatantly obvious in a good team he would be one of the best in the prem.

newcastles defence is useless

Marc

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12th Feb 07 at 12:31

I think Steve Harper isn't to bad either

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12th Feb 07 at 12:52

You can't use the fact that a poor defence is making a keeper look crap

Cech is much better than Given imo. As is Van Der Saar, end of.

Cosmo

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12th Feb 07 at 12:53

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You can't use the fact that a poor defence is making a keeper look crap

Cech is much better than Given imo. As is Van Der Saar, and Reina, end of.

Exactly.

Look at Carson at Charlton, he is behind a shite defence, and is letting goals in because of this, but look how impressive he is actually looking.

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12th Feb 07 at 12:54

People seem to have overlooked Scott Carson as well.

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12th Feb 07 at 12:55

beat me to it Cosmo

I also think Reina is better than Given.

Cosmo

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12th Feb 07 at 12:56

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People seem to have overlooked Scott Carson as well.

He is still too young, Im 100% certain he will be Englands no1 within 3 years. Maybe not for the Euros but def for the next WC.

Just not sure he will still be a Liverpool player.

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12th Feb 07 at 12:57

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beat me to it Cosmo

I also think Reina is better than Given.

I thought you'd seen mine and replied agreeing!

Yes, I know you think Reina is better, your post mentioned that

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12th Feb 07 at 13:00

I was sitting at the post reply screen because my boss came along

Tom

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12th Feb 07 at 13:03

Lehman is old and ugly and grumpy

Spends too much time pretending to be a deer imo

[Edited on 12-02-2007 by Tom]

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12th Feb 07 at 13:03

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Originally posted by Cosmo

quote:
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People seem to have overlooked Scott Carson as well.

He is still too young, Im 100% certain he will be Englands no1 within 3 years. Maybe not for the Euros but def for the next WC.

Just not sure he will still be a Liverpool player.

Or Foster.

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12th Feb 07 at 13:04

Tom

I'll agree with all that. Regardless of his looks though he is still a fantastic keeper. Did you see the save from him when Heskey hit the post? Lehmann got the very feintest of touches.

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12th Feb 07 at 13:06

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Or Foster.

Yeah, could well be. I think Carson is much better though, and not sure why he hasnt had the chance in the full England set-up yet.

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12th Feb 07 at 13:07

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quote:
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Or Foster.

Yeah, could well be. I think Carson is much better though, and not sure why he hasnt had the chance in the full England set-up yet.

I agree. Much prefer Carson to Foster.

Tom

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12th Feb 07 at 13:07

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Tom

I'll agree with all that. Regardless of his looks though he is still a fantastic keeper. Did you see the save from him when Heskey hit the post? Lehmann got the very feintest of touches.

Agreed he can look good but even wenger basically said he's on his way out at the end of the season

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12th Feb 07 at 13:07

imo foster is better

Cosmo

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12th Feb 07 at 13:08

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imo foster is better

take your biased views and choke on them manc scum

Nath

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12th Feb 07 at 13:08

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imo foster is better

Don't make me shoot you!

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12th Feb 07 at 13:17

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo

quote:
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imo foster is better

take your biased views and choke on them manc scum

lol isn't carson a liverpool player? therefore ure opinion is biased...

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12th Feb 07 at 13:18

quote:
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lol isn't carson a liverpool player? therefore ure opinion is biased...

Yes, but I doubt he will stay a Liverpool player so is an unbiased view.

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