Danny P
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Originally posted by dan_c4rsa
well it's a bit of a silly question cos thats why im there.
but yeh - if they said were you speeding i'd say, i was above the limit but i do not beleive i am guilty of the speed the police are stating - and so i beleive that this case is inaccurate, unsupported and i beleive it should be dismissed.
Not a bad answer.
I work for the Magistrates Courts mate, and your right, if your asking for all that information the CPS are likley to drop the case as they will have more important things to worry about, especially for £40 (I presume thats what it says they will ask for on the Summons??)
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Tom J
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Originally posted by dan_c4rsa
really its the police being lazy and not preparing their cases/ getting solid evidence
let us know how you get on
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dan_c4rsa
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quote:
Originally posted by Danny P
Not a bad answer.
I work for the Magistrates Courts mate, and your right, if your asking for all that information the CPS are likley to drop the case as they will have more important things to worry about, especially for £40 (I presume thats what it says they will ask for on the Summons??)
i hope i am right  i have no money for costs and fines - but my gut feeling tells me to go through with it.
and hell yeah i'll update you lot on how it goes.....
might put it in projects lol - the law project 
[Edited on 12-04-2007 by dan_c4rsa]
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Jules S
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Sounds to me like you have googled PePIPoo 
Good luck, I'm surprised they took so long to summons you though...
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dan_c4rsa
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well good i just googled that and i never knew that existed! Cheers o, gna have a good old gander lol.
yeh same - given me like 6 working days which is nothing, i might be able to use that for an adjournment if i havnt got everything sorted in time.
ahh well.
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CorsAsh
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"Infallible" means that something can not be flawed.
Fallible is what you want to say.
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dan_c4rsa
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oooops! haha phew yeh
imagine if i said that in court.
BANG - GUILTY
[Edited on 12-04-2007 by dan_c4rsa]
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Corsa E-Tec
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Good luck 
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Andy Stocker
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Police tried doing my dad the other months for doing 59 in a 30 zone in a 7.5 tonne lorry in the middle of London. He was adament he wasn't doing those speeds and contested it.
Turns out it was a car overtaking him that had set it off, he got a letter of apology.
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Danny P
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quote:
Originally posted by dan_c4rsa
quote:
Originally posted by Danny P
Not a bad answer.
I work for the Magistrates Courts mate, and your right, if your asking for all that information the CPS are likley to drop the case as they will have more important things to worry about, especially for £40 (I presume thats what it says they will ask for on the Summons??)
i hope i am right i have no money for costs and fines - but my gut feeling tells me to go through with it.
JUst tell them you have no job and are claiming benefits, they will order it be paid at something daft like £5.00 per week for the next 200 years
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Rob H
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Personally I think your doing the right thing. At the very least you'll get a reply of all the certificates and stuff, and if they do all come back ok, you'll have to try your best using the argument about being able to get inflated readings when being hand held, as the officers movement can influence the reading. Trying to prove that could be difficult though without getting hold of one, and all the guideline for use etc, and even then you'd have to argue the case that the officer moved.
If you could gte more details of the case that got thrown out on a similar matter it'd be helpful  .
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dan_c4rsa
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yeh im looking but is looking rather bleak. researched the magistrates near me and theyre very very pro police - middle class womens institute that kind of thing.
if they do have the documents i might be charged about 5k and disqualified.
which i dont have.
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Steve
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charged 5k for what?
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Paul_J
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Good on you I say.
You didn't come on here saying 'Bloody copper's - how can I get off this?'
you openly admitted you were in the wrong and doing 45, but yet they said you were doing 50!
considering speedo inaccuacies over reading generally - you may of only been doing 42!
42 in a 30 is far less than a 50 in a 30.
42 in a 30 = sp 30, 3 points.
50 in a 30 = could be a small ban (6 points) due to first two years of driving.
I think it's right to contest it, as I think they need to sort out these guns properly as too many people are getting nicked at incorrect speeds.
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Paul_J
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
charged 5k for what?
Exactly?
£5k? 
I got nicked for doing over 101 mph on the motorway and only paid £150 in fines.
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nik
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IMHO you do's your crime, you take the punishment. The Police could look at this as you trying to be clever with them and come down harder (bigger fine etc) so it's a risky business. I'd personally take the 3 points.
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dan_c4rsa
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for some reason the cto said that i'd get charged up to 5k for all the sources im asking for if i'm still convicted....
so now do i say guilty, then go on about circumstances, get say 4 points and a small fine,
or go ahead with my master plan lol
simply is all or nothing
or a slap on the wrist
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nik
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Appologise admit your wrong to speed, lick their arse and see where it takes you. Like I said, these letters are being sent ten a penny, and if it were me dealing with the case I'd slap a larger fine/points on for being a clever dick Upto you though!
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dan_c4rsa
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if i get these points im 1 away from being banned.
i'll be driving like a grandma!!!!!!! dun dun dunnnnnnnnn!
bugger it all. cant wait till my skyline when im over 25 - a long way away buit im alredi saving............ then i'll be banned in a month
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Cosmo
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You were speeding, take the punishment and get on with your life.
I have no problem when someone questions it when they havent been doing anything wrong, but questioning it and trying to get away with it is stupid and hope it backfires 
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dan_c4rsa
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im not getting away with speeding im stopping them from trying to do me for 50 which is bannable and i wasnt doing 50
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Cosmo
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TBH though, Id guess their gun was more accurate than your speedo!!
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Carl
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80% of magistrates are dodery old people who don't really have a clue, the legal system is flawed to fuck low down.It's a load of bollox really.
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Toby
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my mate got caught doing 93 in a 60 got told he would get a summons fort he got off 6 months down the line it came through the post, he turned up at court and they a women said outside he was going to get a ban for sure, walks uinto court and the magistrait aplolgises for the CPS lack of evidnce and dropped the case, 6 monthsd is a long time for a summons they may have lost your documents, they are likly to be unable to provide you with the documents you request and you may get off, i think you should fight it
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taylorboosh
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least if you fight and it goes tits up the rest of cs knows not to bother, be a man take 1 for the team 
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