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rooney, terry, ferdinand, lampard, gerrard and ashley cole are all world class players imo. i'm sure there are some i have missed aswell, its just that they don't gel well as a team. if england could get a good team then they would challenge for major honours as it is england don't compete with the likes of brazil, france italy, germany and argentina.
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If your going to include Ashley Cole and Ferdinand then you have to include Beckham and Owen too
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It depends how you class players as World Class. My personal opinion is that they have a good chance of walking into ANY team in the world.

So IMO this means (on their day)...Terry, Lampard, Gerrard, Beckham, Rooney and Owen. And their are a few younger ones who have the possibility of getting on this list.


no ferdinand cosmo?
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The only reason England are so poor lately is down to the manager.

And given his name is McClaren I think its fairly obvious he is in cahoots with you Scots to lower our team to your national teams level.


you have blamed your manager 10 years
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It depends how you class players as World Class. My personal opinion is that they have a good chance of walking into ANY team in the world.

So IMO this means (on their day)...Terry, Lampard, Gerrard, Beckham, Rooney and Owen. And their are a few younger ones who have the possibility of getting on this list.


no ferdinand cosmo?


He is good, but would he walk into ANY other team in the world. IMO he wouldnt.
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If your going to include Ashley Cole and Ferdinand then you have to include Beckham and Owen too


as said, i will have missed some.
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The only reason England are so poor lately is down to the manager.

And given his name is McClaren I think its fairly obvious he is in cahoots with you Scots to lower our team to your national teams level.


you have blamed your manager 10 years


Maybe the Scot mutany runs deep into the FA then so they always pick shte managers for us.
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yes, we have infiltrated the fa, now we will take over the world. . .
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It depends how you class players as World Class. My personal opinion is that they have a good chance of walking into ANY team in the world.

So IMO this means (on their day)...Terry, Lampard, Gerrard, Beckham, Rooney and Owen. And their are a few younger ones who have the possibility of getting on this list.


no ferdinand cosmo?


He is good, but would he walk into ANY other team in the world. IMO he wouldnt.


interesting opinion, wrong though

i think he could walk into any team, his qualities are there to be seen,
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actually, the fact that we have so many english players, mcevely(sp) and quashie etc we may well have
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interesting opinion, wrong though

i think he could walk into any team, his qualities are there to be seen,


Would he fuck Id rather have Vidic than Rio tbh.
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yes, we have infiltrated the fa, now we will take over the world. . .


will this mean ginger hair and a love for Iron-bru for us all?
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interesting opinion, wrong though

i think he could walk into any team, his qualities are there to be seen,


Would he fuck Id rather have Vidic than Rio tbh.


yes i agree, vidic is a brilliant player, but rio keeps your beloved carragher out of the team, and no-one in the world is better than him

rio has that quality and class that most teams would love to have, makes things look easy, confident, excellent defender, always in the right places etc
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yes i agree, vidic is a brilliant player, but rio keeps your beloved carragher out of the team, and no-one in the world is better than him

rio has that quality and class that most teams would love to have, makes things look easy, confident, excellent defender, always in the right places etc


dont bring Carra vs Rio into this thread, its heated enough

He also makes plenty of mistakes and is a coke head.
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yes i agree, vidic is a brilliant player, but rio keeps your beloved carragher out of the team, and no-one in the world is better than him

rio has that quality and class that most teams would love to have, makes things look easy, confident, excellent defender, always in the right places etc


dont bring Carra vs Rio into this thread, its heated enough

He also makes plenty of mistakes and is a coke head.


unproven

i believe terry makes more mistakes tbh
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yes, we have infiltrated the fa, now we will take over the world. . .


will this mean ginger hair and a love for Iron-bru for us all?


yup, and you will be playing in skirts
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alledice sp. would have been the better choice
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alledice sp. would have been the better choice


no he wouldnt He is another who has no proven record at the top level, the same as McUnderCoverScot.
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yeah but is there any english manager that has a proven record at top level?

or would you get another foreigner in?
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yeah but is there any english manager that has a proven record at top level?

or would you get another foreigner in?


Ive no problem with a foreign manager if he is proven at the top level and has some certain attributes. If that level of English boss isnt about then so be it.

Sven wasnt a bad choice at first, he did have a proven record at the top, he was just kept about too long after it was clear he wasnt right. Yes someone with passion is needed, but if they have fuck all tactical knowledge or ideas on how to handle the best of the best when it comes to players then no amount of passion would make up for it.
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Here we go again

Yup The people that don't watch the league judge it as being shit.






Are you honestly saying it is a good league? Do you honestly think any of the teams other than Cetic, Rangers and maybe Hearts would hold their own in the Premier League? Not baiting just wondering


Nah I'm not saying it's a good league as such, it just seems that everytime an English team comes up against any Scottish ones, they get a lot better game than they bargained for mate
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yes, we have infiltrated the fa, now we will take over the world. . .


will this mean ginger hair and a love for Iron-bru for us all?


Irn Bru. Reason it isn't called Iron Bru/brew is because it contains no Iron, and isn't Brewed so would be false advertisement
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And I also agree with you lot saying that you obviously have better players, it is a foregone conclusion. But time and again it's been proven, World Class players don't always make a world class team. With the players you have you should be in the Top 3 on the planet ffs
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Irn Bru. Reason it isn't called Iron Bru/brew is because it contains no Iron, and isn't Brewed so would be false advertisement


Mircosoft is neither Micro or soft.
Apple doesnt make its products out of Apples.
Ford dont make Fords or their products out of them.
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Irn Bru is fucking hardcore

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