Fad
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thats 
V6 Camarys are pretty too imo
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SVM 286
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The Coombs will kill himself. 
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SVM 286
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Robin, why does your gearbox HAVE to be immediately behind the engine dear?
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Robin
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Because then I can use a selection of gearboxes, not just the one from the car.
Also, making a bellhousing to suit a Porsche to Ford/Mazda pattern is a lot harder than using an off the shelf one.
Also, if the car is well balanced beforehand, with a cast iron engine block, replacing that with an all alloy engine will shift the weight towards the back of the car, which will make it gay.
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Robin
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The VW Coupe doesn't have a 6 speed gearbox either, or 3 possible 5 speeds with loads of different ratios off the shelf 
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AK
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this sounds like a hell of a lot of poitless faffing around.
Why not buy something that will work from the word go... not another project to be sold on
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Robin
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Because my budget isn't that of an oil baron, I need a car which costs not a lot to buy, which I can improve.
It's hardly a lot of pointless faffing around either, engine in, gearbox in, turrets in the rear end, bolt stuff on.
Not hard.
The thought of buying an ordinary car and bolting on off the shelf parts doesn't appeal to me either, I've tried that.
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Robin
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Put it this way, was there really any point in you spending 10k on a Skyline when you've replaced everything with better stuff? You'd have been better off buying one without an engine, suspension or brakes for next to nothing really, wouldn't you?
That's what I'm aiming to do. I want a properly specced car which has the initial outlay of a round of drinks.
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Paul_J
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
Put it this way, was there really any point in you spending 10k on a Skyline when you've replaced everything with better stuff? You'd have been better off buying one without an engine, suspension or brakes for next to nothing really, wouldn't you?
That's what I'm aiming to do. I want a properly specced car which has the initial outlay of a round of drinks.
That's different, I have nothing against finding a good base without a engine.
I just feel deciding on the base of your car dependant on it's inital cost will make it potentially more limited than it should be. Providing you have the cash to upgrade everything immediately to the best it can be, as you say it won't matter, but that's if you can afford to buy Everything straight away, rather than oh well 'I'll buy this for now, and better brakes later, and then that, and this... in that scenerio it may be a dog until you've finally finished it.
Either way mate, good luck with it - I really would like to be able to start a proper solely track car project... I'd like to go RWD, but so far on track I do love FWD it's so forgiving and you can push it over the limit and not have it bite you in the ass 
I still stand by the fact a proper specced up and sorted FWD can probably give most RWD cars a good run on track.
I need to get working and make some money
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Robin
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I'm not basing the choice entirely on cost, I just can't afford to go over x amount of money, so the choice is limited.
I'm quite willing to go anywhere between £1 and £1000 though, for example.
It won't be a quick build, whatever I buy, but it will be a proper build.
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Hamish
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Robin. This may sound stupid, but mad_mike had a mk2 escort for sale a while ago for £500 i think
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
Because then I can use a selection of gearboxes, not just the one from the car.
Also, making a bellhousing to suit a Porsche to Ford/Mazda pattern is a lot harder than using an off the shelf one.
Also, if the car is well balanced beforehand, with a cast iron engine block, replacing that with an all alloy engine will shift the weight towards the back of the car, which will make it gay.
I am saying no more words...
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nova_gteuk
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http://swansea.gumtree.com/swansea/36/20801736.html
mx5 with hardtop,in swansea though.
I was interested in it since i seen that one you posted up the other day lol
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
I'm not basing the choice entirely on cost, I just can't afford to go over x amount of money, so the choice is limited.
I'm quite willing to go anywhere between £1 and £1000 though, for example.
It won't be a quick build, whatever I buy, but it will be a proper build.
Like Andy's black Chevette. That's a proper little car. 
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broster
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Originally posted by Hamish
Robin. This may sound stupid, but mad_mike had a mk2 escort for sale a while ago for £500 i think
too many doors
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AK
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Robin,
I didnt mean buy a 911 GT3 RS or somehing
I just meant compramise and buy a working car....
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Robin
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Yeah, I know what you mean, but if I'm ripping it apart and changing everything anyway, I might aswell start from the bottom 
Obviously I don't want a sheddy thing, but I'd rather not have something I'm not keen to pull apart, I've been there before and it's pointless.
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Whittie
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Extend your budget a little bit and buy a 6r4 
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Daimo B
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Doesn't matter what condition the engine/suspension etc is in.
As long as the shell is rust free and sturdy, then you ahve a good base for a track car
Old cars are fairly heavy due to the materials used. No aluminium etc. All 10" thick steel But loose weight due to no safty gubbins.
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Daimo B
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
Yeah, I know what you mean, but if I'm ripping it apart and changing everything anyway, I might aswell start from the bottom
Obviously I don't want a sheddy thing, but I'd rather not have something I'm not keen to pull apart, I've been there before and it's pointless.
What about an Omega or Carlton?????
Silly i know, but its vauxhall, you know them, parts are cheap, parts are available, RWD, not the usual track car, but the Omega has been used on tracks many times in the thundersaloon series and V8 series. Can be used as a drift toy if thats your thing also.
Once all that interiors out and all the junks out, it'll loose a LOT of weight.
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AK
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locost 7 kitcar?
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Robin
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR
parts are cheap, parts are available
Standard parts maybe.
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Originally posted by VXR
not the usual track car
Not without good reason no doubt.
An Omega is just too large, the engines aren't that great, even the V6s, I could put a different engine in, but non standard parts aren't really available.
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jr
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mr2
mx5
e30
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Robin
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quote:
Originally posted by nova_gteuk
I was interested in it since i seen that one you posted up the other day lol
This one?
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quote:
Originally posted by broster
quote:
Originally posted by Hamish
Robin. This may sound stupid, but mad_mike had a mk2 escort for sale a while ago for £500 i think
too many doors
You're skating on thin ice there sunshine 
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