Adam_B
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quote: Originally posted by Fad
Think too many people listen to dribble to know that engines with lesser torque can still be quick and deliver on the road.
you have to drive it at 100% nutter mode to have fun though, there is no middle ground. When i drove a ITR it was either dullsville A to B or full on attack.
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Wrighty
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quote: Originally posted by Fad
Yeah but it revs higher and drives superb.
they are very revvy and nice cars to drive i agree, i do like them
re torque dribble - quite shocked they produce so little for quite a nippy car - but unlike i lot of people on here id like to think i know a bit about what im commenting before opening my mouth cheers
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flybikeslee
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quote: Originally posted by antmashed
what i was dissapointed with:
for all this torqueless banter
honda 1.6 engine 158bhp 111ft/lbs torque
both engines 1.6......
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antmashed
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quote: Originally posted by mattk
jesus look at that flat spot, what induction kit do you have?
dblias flowmaster
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jr
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quote: Originally posted by Adam_B
quote: Originally posted by Fad
Think too many people listen to dribble to know that engines with lesser torque can still be quick and deliver on the road.
you have to drive it at 100% nutter mode to have fun though, there is no middle ground. When i drove a ITR it was either dullsville A to B or full on attack.
the one i drove i did feel the same about tbh (ctr) felt "tiring" to drive
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SportBoy
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CORSA NUT
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Thought i'd post my Dyno Dynamics graph for a comparison 
P.S Were the fuk was my invite?? 
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Fad
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quote: Originally posted by Wrighty
quote: Originally posted by Fad
Yeah but it revs higher and drives superb.
they are very revvy and nice cars to drive i agree, i do like them
re torque dribble - quite shocked they produce so little for quite a nippy car - but unlike i lot of people on here id like to think i know a bit about what im commenting before opening my mouth cheers
Wasnt a dig just generalising, I think Gavins initially seems a bit low due to the fact he has a stright through exhaust on it. It would closer to 145lb/ft as standard iirc
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andy1868
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don't start this again lee
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Adam_B
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quote: Originally posted by jr
quote: Originally posted by Adam_B
quote: Originally posted by Fad
Think too many people listen to dribble to know that engines with lesser torque can still be quick and deliver on the road.
you have to drive it at 100% nutter mode to have fun though, there is no middle ground. When i drove a ITR it was either dullsville A to B or full on attack.
the one i drove i did feel the same about tbh (ctr) felt "tiring" to drive
*high five!*
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flybikeslee
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i wasn't
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Ojc
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C16XE GSi, Lee Mitchell inlet, standard exhaust, K+N panel filter.
Smash
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SAL
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Just uploaded about 100 pic's to my garage 
Was a really good day, good to see all the SE crew and other people 
Im very happy with my run of 214.2 hp, most unmapped z-let's with the mod's i have dont normally see over 200 Im sure once the car is mapped it's going to see very good power indeed !
Any way's few pic's of the day









And a few either being run 








And last but not least, there was even toy's for the junior member's

Thank's to JR and Willay for the day !
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Robbo
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Stavs Good to meet you mate
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Ben G
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the guys at TOTD loved the attention to detail on C18VXR's front bumper
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Andy Stocker
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Have I seen that other silver C outside Kierons bodyshop Stavs?
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Warren G
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quote: Originally posted by antmashed
what i was dissapointed with:
remap yo
dbilas crap even says so on the paper, now do you believe me?
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SAL
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quote: Originally posted by warren.g
quote: Originally posted by antmashed
what i was dissapointed with:
remap yo
dbilas crap even says so on the paper, now do you believe me?
I disagree, mine was fine and made more power than ant's with less mod's
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Warren G
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needs a remap for a start
then relocation, it sits in a dead spot, needs that pipe removing, and a cold air feed from the standard location (where the corsa c dbilas pipes come from)
like this one

why else didnt they design it to go where ant has his...... would of been easier for them
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Rob R
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I do love all this "ctr's are shite because they have no torque" shite.
If torque is THAT important then why do CTR's give 200bhp turbos with 100lb/ft more torque a bloody good run for their money?
Unless you have driven one you really can't comment.
Anyways looks like a good day and Ben G your result is bloody impressive!
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SAL
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That is how dblias desighn them, it's like saying a car with TB's wont make full power because the trumpet's are at the back of the bay...im sure where ant has his would get more air.
He is going to try a piper X induction kit i have and see, im sure it will be worse with the heat saok
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Warren G
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just what iv been told, its a low pressure area aka a dead spot - so im told by a engineer 
remap first.
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Warren G
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i mean seriouly, this what im up against

its like being back at school with him
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DaveyLC
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quote: Originally posted by antmashed
what i was dissapointed with:
Same power as mine, although mine did 135lb/ft of torque and the torque curve is more of a line accross the graph 
[Edited on 09-11-2008 by DaveyLC]
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Warren G
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but i think yours was down to the inlet manifold swirl flaps not working, else would of made 130ish id guess
mine made 110 lftf on throttle bodies
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