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ssj_kakarot
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29th Jun 09 at 23:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by ssj_kakarot

but your just presuming hes not that sick, seriously popping into a pub for half an hour having a coke and going home isnt that much of hard task for a sick person to cope with.


to an employer thats a piss take. no matter which way you look at it.


yeah i know i agree lol, i would never do it, i think since ive been working ive had one day off sick and thats accross every job ive had since i was 16.

but he asked if they could do out, yeah they can shout at him but i doubt they can legally do anything since he has a sick note, not that im an expert by any means.
Nic Barnes
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29th Jun 09 at 23:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

im guessing this going to the pub will actually cheer you up a lot etc so its going to be a risk you take.
Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by ssj_kakarot
but he asked if they could do out, yeah they can shout at him but i doubt they can legally do anything since he has a sick note, not that im an expert by any means.


if an employer feels your taking the piss then yes they can sack you for it.
Nic Barnes
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29th Jun 09 at 23:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

plan for you. maybe go meet your mates at a queer bar. if anyone from work sees you chances are it will never get reported.
ssj_kakarot
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29th Jun 09 at 23:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
quote:
Originally posted by ssj_kakarot
but he asked if they could do out, yeah they can shout at him but i doubt they can legally do anything since he has a sick note, not that im an expert by any means.


if an employer feels your taking the piss then yes they can sack you for it.


you joking lol have you seen the plethra of stupid and pointless tasks an employer has to go through before they can sack someone for being off on the sick lol

fair enough if he called in on a friday and his boss seen him drinking on the night, but you cant get sacked for being seen outside when you have a sick note.

theres a lot of steps you have to take to get rid of someone for stuff like being off on the sick over a long period of time, but stupid really as some people really take the piss.
Rob B
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29th Jun 09 at 23:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I think i'd get a bollocking maybe but would more than be able to justify my reasons. I just think the same as ssj, going to the pub to say hello isn't going to stress my throat and vocal cords like constantly talking for 8 hours would, aswell as the mental strain when i'm getting four/five hours sleep.
Nic Barnes
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I think i'd get a bollocking maybe but would more than be able to justify my reasons. I just think the same as ssj, going to the pub to say hello isn't going to stress my throat and vocal cords like constantly talking for 8 hours would, aswell as the mental strain when i'm getting four/five hours sleep.


thing is, you cant prove thats only what your doing. nobody will believe it. i wouldnt. your in a pub yet signed off sick with throat related and asthma things. it looks bad.

(im not actually saying i wouldnt go by they way)
taylorboosh
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29th Jun 09 at 23:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

man up tbh
taylorboosh
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go in tomorrow then to the pub
Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by john-d
go in tomorrow then to the pub



your not covered on insurance to return to work before the date of a sick note ending i dont think?
Rob B
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30th Jun 09 at 00:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by john-d
go in tomorrow then to the pub



your not covered on insurance to return to work before the date of a sick note ending i dont think?


correct, i understand what your saying Nic, but surely it has to be my word against there's so not really something that could be proven.
Nic Barnes
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30th Jun 09 at 00:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

can you not get your mates round your bit instead? then there isnt any issues.
taylorboosh
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quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by john-d
go in tomorrow then to the pub



your not covered on insurance to return to work before the date of a sick note ending i dont think?


how could he get hurt on phone
Gareth F
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30th Jun 09 at 00:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

You can return to work before the end date on the suck note but only on the grounds that its your own decision to do so.
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Originally posted by john-d
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by john-d
go in tomorrow then to the pub



your not covered on insurance to return to work before the date of a sick note ending i dont think?


how could he get hurt on phone



trips and breaks a leg, falls down stairs ect ect
Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by john-d
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by john-d
go in tomorrow then to the pub



your not covered on insurance to return to work before the date of a sick note ending i dont think?


how could he get hurt on phone



its a health and safety thing. say he fell asleep on the phone and triggered a massive occurance of events similar to what has been seen in the final destination movies resulting in someone getting run over by a bus in paris when he should have been at home as he was still signed off sick.
taylorboosh
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quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
quote:
Originally posted by john-d
quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
quote:
Originally posted by john-d
go in tomorrow then to the pub



your not covered on insurance to return to work before the date of a sick note ending i dont think?


how could he get hurt on phone



its a health and safety thing. say he fell asleep on the phone and triggered a massive occurance of events similar to what has been seen in the final destination movies resulting in someone getting run over by a bus in paris when he should have been at home as he was still signed off sick. [/quote


all makes sence now lol]
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quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
its a health and safety thing. say he fell asleep on the phone and triggered a massive occurance of events similar to what has been seen in the final destination movies resulting in someone getting run over by a bus in paris when he should have been at home as he was still signed off sick.


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Cosmo
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30th Jun 09 at 08:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

tbh if it was one of my employees then Id be pissed, but I wouldnt fire that person (or even discipline) as it just wouldnt hold up should it go to a tribunal.

You can get away with anything these days as an employee.
C2RL R
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30th Jun 09 at 08:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i had a week off on doctors orders earlier this year. i know it's boring as fuck but you have been given this time to relax and get better. don't risk losing your job just to have a few beers with your mates.
Ren
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30th Jun 09 at 11:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Rob you keep mentioning your vocal chords, but you've got asthma not a sore throat
Daimo B
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30th Jun 09 at 11:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If he has been SIGNED off he CANNOT go to work. The employer is breaking the law.

What I don't get is, if you REALLY want to see you mate, and REALLY want a beer, why not ask him to bring a 6 pack round your house?????

Otherwise, do you REALLY need to ask this question????
Cosmo
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The employer would have to prove that the reason you have been signed off is also a reason why you should not be in a pub.

IMO it is not, and Im certain they'd have a hard time trying to prove this.
Marc
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30th Jun 09 at 11:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I went out when I was off sick

I did have broken bones which prevented me from working though
Daimo B
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I think an industrial tribunial would find it fairly easy to vote in favour of the employer if a signed off employee was proven to be in a pub.

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