ed
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You have proof that they aren't?
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DizzyRebel
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Originally posted by mwg
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Originally posted by Ojc
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I own a golf, and that advert makes me proud. my car is a 20v though, so i suppose my car is like an Audi then!
Why? Golfs are shit.
And so are Audi's and BMW's 
Infact anything non Vauxhall 
Vauxhall are the best at making cheap, fast cars though. They still do it today with the corsa VXR, astra VXR and the VXR8.
Far Far cheaper than any german rival and they perform as well as, if not better than the competition.
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andy1868
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parkers reckons the gti is 1200kgs and the coupe is 1290kgs. i'm not for a second saying parkers is completely trustworthy though
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taylorboosh
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Originally posted by DizzyRebel
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Originally posted by mwg
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Originally posted by Ojc
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Originally posted by ryzer
I own a golf, and that advert makes me proud. my car is a 20v though, so i suppose my car is like an Audi then!
Why? Golfs are shit.
And so are Audi's and BMW's
Infact anything non Vauxhall
Vauxhall are the best at making cheap, fast cars though. They still do it today with the corsa VXR, astra VXR and the VXR8.
Far Far cheaper than any german rival and they perform as well as, if not better than the competition.
but i would rather have a megan or clio so obv not better than french
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Daimo B
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Never mind the car
What about that colour, ooooooooooooooooooooo sexual.....
wonder who's car it is?
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taylorboosh
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golf is lighter i win
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DizzyRebel
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Originally posted by john-d
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Originally posted by DizzyRebel
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Originally posted by mwg
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Originally posted by Ojc
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Originally posted by ryzer
I own a golf, and that advert makes me proud. my car is a 20v though, so i suppose my car is like an Audi then!
Why? Golfs are shit.
And so are Audi's and BMW's
Infact anything non Vauxhall
Vauxhall are the best at making cheap, fast cars though. They still do it today with the corsa VXR, astra VXR and the VXR8.
Far Far cheaper than any german rival and they perform as well as, if not better than the competition.
but i would rather have a megan or clio so obv not better than french
So they do a rwd v8 megan or clio do they? 
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Ojc
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That is the point though isn't it.
This marketing campaign by VW is just rubbish, you have some lads tuning what looks like a 306, ok it looks like a sack of shit but if its a 306 GTi-6 then it's going to be faster than the Mk3 Golf GTi of the time and even the VR6 and handling cannot be compared.
Then you have someone driving a rival to a Golf around a track, now lets say thats an Astra VXR, and compared with the Golf GTi which is slow and no where near worth the extra premium compared with the Astra.
The new Mk6 Golf isn't as good to drive as a Corsa VXR, it felt better screwed together but to pay 25k for one is just madness.
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taylorboosh
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Originally posted by DizzyRebel
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Originally posted by john-d
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Originally posted by DizzyRebel
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Originally posted by mwg
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Originally posted by Ojc
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Originally posted by ryzer
I own a golf, and that advert makes me proud. my car is a 20v though, so i suppose my car is like an Audi then!
Why? Golfs are shit.
And so are Audi's and BMW's
Infact anything non Vauxhall
Vauxhall are the best at making cheap, fast cars though. They still do it today with the corsa VXR, astra VXR and the VXR8.
Far Far cheaper than any german rival and they perform as well as, if not better than the competition.
but i would rather have a megan or clio so obv not better than french
So they do a rwd v8 megan or clio do they?
they made a rwd v6 clio?
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andy1868
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john, the astra weighs 7.5% more than the golf but has 33% extra power from standard
[Edited on 22-09-2009 by andy1868]
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AndyKent
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Originally posted by ed
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Originally posted by john-d
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There are quite a few other cars in that class that aren't Astras and Golfs though
not with a easily achievable 200bhp and group 14 standard insurance
Late reply to AndyKent. A lot of people couldn't give a shit if you can 'easily tune' a car too.
Obviously, but Olly is usually making the comparison against his Astra, so I stuck with it.
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DizzyRebel
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Originally posted by john-d
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Originally posted by DizzyRebel
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Originally posted by john-d
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Originally posted by DizzyRebel
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Originally posted by mwg
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Originally posted by Ojc
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Originally posted by ryzer
I own a golf, and that advert makes me proud. my car is a 20v though, so i suppose my car is like an Audi then!
Why? Golfs are shit.
And so are Audi's and BMW's
Infact anything non Vauxhall
Vauxhall are the best at making cheap, fast cars though. They still do it today with the corsa VXR, astra VXR and the VXR8.
Far Far cheaper than any german rival and they perform as well as, if not better than the competition.
but i would rather have a megan or clio so obv not better than french
So they do a rwd v8 megan or clio do they?
they made a rwd v6 clio?
Yes and that limp wristed, overweight, underpowered spinout king is really in the same league as a VXR8? 
the only people that come close to vauxhall are ford, but they lost their way a while ago. Whilst BMW and audi make some good cars... you pay silly silly money for them. a VXR8 is half the price of an M3 and in terms of spec and performance, they arent all that dissimilar.
Again, a corsa VXR is about 10 grand cheaper than a golf GTi, yet in terms of spec and performance they are the same...
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Ojc
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I wasn't comparing anything with my Astra?
I was talking from experience of every Mk of Golf to date.
The Mk6 felt the best from what I've driven but it's still a long way off being a decent drivers car.
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taylorboosh
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Originally posted by DizzyRebel
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Originally posted by john-d
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Originally posted by DizzyRebel
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Originally posted by john-d
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Originally posted by DizzyRebel
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Originally posted by mwg
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Originally posted by Ojc
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Originally posted by ryzer
I own a golf, and that advert makes me proud. my car is a 20v though, so i suppose my car is like an Audi then!
Why? Golfs are shit.
And so are Audi's and BMW's
Infact anything non Vauxhall
Vauxhall are the best at making cheap, fast cars though. They still do it today with the corsa VXR, astra VXR and the VXR8.
Far Far cheaper than any german rival and they perform as well as, if not better than the competition.
but i would rather have a megan or clio so obv not better than french
So they do a rwd v8 megan or clio do they?
they made a rwd v6 clio?
Yes and that limp wristed, overweight, underpowered spinout king is really in the same league as a VXR8?
the only people that come close to vauxhall are ford, but they lost their way a while ago. Whilst BMW and audi make some good cars... you pay silly silly money for them. a VXR8 is half the price of an M3 and in terms of spec and performance, they arent all that dissimilar.
Again, a corsa VXR is about 10 grand cheaper than a golf GTi, yet in terms of spec and performance they are the same...
i would rather have a clio v6 than a vxr8
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DizzyRebel
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And i would rather have a MK4 astra gsi or coupe turbo over a MK4 golf gti!
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taylorboosh
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good for you. dont buy a golf then
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AndyKent
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As a 'drivers car' I would definately have a VXR over a GTi, but 95% of buyers don't want a drivers car. They want something to go to Tescos, get to work in comfort or whatever. All this drivers car stuff suddenly becomes irrelevant, especially when most days I can't even get to work at the national speed limit due to all the fuckwits travelling at 40mph 
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Originally posted by Ojc
*apart from Tony P's track animal Mk4
well mines a 223 bhp mk4 now probs 230 bhp when running right, is mine shit?
well in a word yes
By no means is it the worst car on the road but very overated and dull
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taylorboosh
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for 5 gs?
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mattk
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VWs are boring. there is no argument about that, they look bland, they drive bland, and they cost too much and from what I can gather arnt that reliable
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ryzer
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but you drive a fiat? ok ill give you the grande punto looks fantastic, but are you trying to tell me your 1.9 diesel punto isnt a bland drive?
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taylorboosh
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Originally posted by ryzer
but you drive a fiat? ok ill give you the grande punto looks fantastic, but are you trying to tell me your 1.9 diesel punto isnt a bland drive?
its orange how can it be 
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taylorboosh
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and every 1 is also comparing the gti which would be the sri' oposite number, if comparing to a vxr use the r32?
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Cavey
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I think it's a good advert, and is well done.
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AndyKent
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GTi is the comparable to the VXR. 4pot turbo versus 4pot turbo.
R32 is mostly for the noise, not performance.
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