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22B
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1st Dec 09 at 13:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I always found the clio 182's and 172's normally achieved around 165-175bhp on a rolling road, havent seen many hit above as standard. Not sure about the 197 though.
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wtf? surely loads of them are wrong?

Captin Rosco is200 145.6/134 +5bhp standard
Surely that should be 10 bhp down?

Brad(ccuk) Focus ST170 160/136 +10bhp standard
Surely that is technically 10 bhp down?

DaveyLC
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All of the cars that are down (bar Warrens sea-shanty-jamsport mapped 1.8) were running perfectly..
Fad
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Originally posted by VXR
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Originally posted by Paul_J

nah fad's spent a fortune on that car, done it all now... and its still under standard power.


Fad repeating his XE Corsa ownership life cycle again?


Nope in comparison reasonable but on the other side of the scale servicing costs are much much more due to the miles I've put on it
Kano
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quote:
Originally posted by Paul_J
wtf? surely loads of them are wrong?

Captin Rosco is200 145.6/134 +5bhp standard
Surely that should be 10 bhp down?

Brad(ccuk) Focus ST170 160/136 +10bhp standard
Surely that is technically 10 bhp down?




ST170's are actually only 165ish standard..
Jambo
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1st Dec 09 at 13:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

e46 343bhp standard
Daimo B
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Originally posted by Fad

Nope in comparison reasonable but on the other side of the scale servicing costs are much much more due to the miles I've put on it


Nahh i meant doing a lot of engine work and not getting any gains

*Banter*
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i was speculating, i dont have all the book figures infront of me
Fad
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Originally posted by Fad

Nope in comparison reasonable but on the other side of the scale servicing costs are much much more due to the miles I've put on it


Nahh i meant doing a lot of engine work and not getting any gains

*Banter*


Well Daimo the funny thing is it ran a 14.9 at the pod and is now on its 5th CS owner....so that aside I would say its pretty well built considering it hasnt been broken yet which is the norm for any XE corsas on here

Daimo B
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This is true...

But you've missed the whole "blahh my XE is the fastest in the world and ran a 14.6/14.8 in totally standard form" banter the other day


Sorry post de-rail Andy...

So Andy, when you getting the remap? See you could ahve incorporated that in your day trip?
Nic Barnes
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hmm, seems these totd rollers arent all they are cracked up to be. think i will stay away from there in future.


like your allowed near a set of proper rollers in the first place, let alone down south

pub talk ftw


just saying a lot of the results seem a bit dodgy thats all. next time id try somewhere else more reputable.
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I reckon it may be the Mk4 problem where you need to pull the TC/ESP fuse out. On the mk4's Regal/courteney pull out the TC fuses as the ESP notes the rear wheels not moving but the fronts doing silly speed and applies the brakes etc. If you look on Astra sport it's the first suggestion on standard cars that are RR'd.
However this said, Olly could be right as the boost solenoids work one minute but not the next. I've got rid of the rear solenoid for that reason, and run the VXR front one. When the rear was connected boost would vary from 15-22psi!
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quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
quote:
Originally posted by jr
quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
hmm, seems these totd rollers arent all they are cracked up to be. think i will stay away from there in future.


like your allowed near a set of proper rollers in the first place, let alone down south

pub talk ftw


just saying a lot of the results seem a bit dodgy thats all. next time id try somewhere else more reputable.


where would you suggust x

TOTD are very reputable and i didnt know there was issues, in future memebers are welcome to organise or suggust other locations



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quote:
Originally posted by Spanishfly
I reckon it may be the Mk4 problem where you need to pull the TC/ESP fuse out. On the mk4's Regal/courteney pull out the TC fuses as the ESP notes the rear wheels not moving but the fronts doing silly speed and applies the brakes etc. If you look on Astra sport it's the first suggestion on standard cars that are RR'd.
However this said, Olly could be right as the boost solenoids work one minute but not the next. I've got rid of the rear solenoid for that reason, and run the VXR front one. When the rear was connected boost would vary from 15-22psi!


i reckon the issue with the m3 might be down to the flywheel sensor issue or similar that track and road had with an M5

lee knows the story
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quote:
Originally posted by jr
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
quote:
Originally posted by jr
quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
hmm, seems these totd rollers arent all they are cracked up to be. think i will stay away from there in future.


like your allowed near a set of proper rollers in the first place, let alone down south

pub talk ftw


just saying a lot of the results seem a bit dodgy thats all. next time id try somewhere else more reputable.


where would you suggust x

TOTD are very reputable and i didnt know there was issues, in future memebers are welcome to organise or suggust other locations






i dont know, whats the place everyone that has been to the ring raves on about? track and field or something?
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Every rolling road will be different, which is why you should stick to the same company if comparing mods on your own car. At the end of the day the only wheel way to get flywheel HP is by using an engine dyno.
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i dont know, whats the place everyone that has been to the ring raves on about? track and field or something?

They are good, great infact. However you have to be of a special breed to go there. Your not in that breed!
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to give an idea

nikkijamie's old corsa made 0.5bhp diffrence on the engine dyno than it did on corrected engine power at TOTD
Nic Barnes
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its too far down south so i wont go anyway.
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its too far down south so i wont go anyway.


Lucky for us! If I could I would surround you in a moat so you and pub talk BHP could stay in a 1 mile radius!
Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by jr
to give an idea

nikkijamie's old corsa made 0.5bhp diffrence on the engine dyno than it did on corrected engine power at TOTD


well yeah its very easy to do the corrected power to keep people happy so thats not really a justified response.
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
its too far down south so i wont go anyway.


Lucky for us! If I could I would surround you in a moat so you and pub talk BHP could stay in a 1 mile radius!


sorry chip
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by Spanishfly
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
its too far down south so i wont go anyway.


Lucky for us! If I could I would surround you in a moat so you and pub talk BHP could stay in a 1 mile radius!


sorry chip


Have past on your message to him under the table
jr
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quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
quote:
Originally posted by jr
to give an idea

nikkijamie's old corsa made 0.5bhp diffrence on the engine dyno than it did on corrected engine power at TOTD


well yeah its very easy to do the corrected power to keep people happy so thats not really a justified response.


when they dont know what power it made on the dyno untill after he printed the graph, what is he a fucking mind reader
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quote:
Originally posted by jr
quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
quote:
Originally posted by jr
to give an idea

nikkijamie's old corsa made 0.5bhp diffrence on the engine dyno than it did on corrected engine power at TOTD


well yeah its very easy to do the corrected power to keep people happy so thats not really a justified response.


when they dont know what power it made on the dyno untill after he printed the graph, what is he a fucking mind reader


Knew you would say that

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