DannyB
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I pulled into the petrol station the other night and parked behind a policewoman at the pumps, she turned round, seen my plate and stared at it and then went on her way, never said a thing.
That doesn't mean a thing. Someone in the police force could witness a mugging, but if their shift had ended, can't be bothered, or just lazy can choose to ignore. Would that mean the mugging was legal?
I never said it wasn't legal, I'm saying she never said anything.
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Burny
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actually, the police say they're legal...just so happens they're on the internet.
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Root
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some people think it's legal, other's do not. Truth be told, there's a grey area and people do not know exactly what is legal and what is not, to be safe, use a fucking standard plate, else take the risk of being pulled over
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P1CK4D
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Originally posted by Burny
http://www.policespecials.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=81351
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Isn't that just another forum? 
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DannyB
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Originally posted by Burny
actually, the police say they're legal...just so happens they're on the internet.
They aren't legal.
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P1CK4D
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Originally posted by DannyB
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Originally posted by P1CK4D
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Originally posted by DannyB
I pulled into the petrol station the other night and parked behind a policewoman at the pumps, she turned round, seen my plate and stared at it and then went on her way, never said a thing.
That doesn't mean a thing. Someone in the police force could witness a mugging, but if their shift had ended, can't be bothered, or just lazy can choose to ignore. Would that mean the mugging was legal?
I never said it wasn't legal, I'm saying she never said anything.
Wasted effort then tbh 
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Tiger
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http://www.bnma.org/bnma_legislation1.htm
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The new British Standard requires the following:-
Acrylic
A new toughened acrylic has been introduced with a stronger impact. Due to the process involved in the manufacture, this acrylic absorbs more light.
Reflective
This has improved reflectivity due to the extra light absorption of the acrylic.
Digits and Printer Ribbon
These have been tested in conjunction with the acrylic and reflective to meet this new standard.
The standard will require weathering tests and tests for delamination.
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Burny
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another forum with people who actually know the law a little better than this one. why should i listen to anyone off here over anyone off there? i know its a stupid thing to be arguing about, but i guess when two sets of people feel they're right you could argue the sky isnt blue for as long as you like
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Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by Burny
actually, the police say they're legal...just so happens they're on the internet.
how do you know they are police? i work for the police force. any form of pressed plate isnt legal and drivers can be prosecuted. no matter what anyone tells you. wether or not my fellow officers would bother pulling a car over for it is another matter 
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P1CK4D
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I also own my own MOT testing centre. Anything other than the standard plate is a Fail. If others decide to pass the car so they don't waste time of re-testing, thats down to them.
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mwg
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Burny
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haha, i don't really, although id hate to think there are people out there signing up for police forums if they aren't
i do love a good debate, even if its about number plates! (im not fussy on subject matter  )
either way, i believe they're legal, you don't. i feel a stalemate.
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Tiger
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Originally posted by Tiger
http://www.bnma.org/bnma_legislation1.htm
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The new British Standard requires the following:-
Acrylic
A new toughened acrylic has been introduced with a stronger impact. Due to the process involved in the manufacture, this acrylic absorbs more light.
Reflective
This has improved reflectivity due to the extra light absorption of the acrylic.
Digits and Printer Ribbon
These have been tested in conjunction with the acrylic and reflective to meet this new standard.
The standard will require weathering tests and tests for delamination.
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P1CK4D
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I feel you getting a fine by using illegal plates. Have a good evening.
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James_DT
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The actual law:
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2001/uksi_20010561_en.pdf
Nothing in there stops a pressed plate being legal, as long as it conforms to the usual rules.
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Burny
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nah, even if they are legal i dont enjoy being pulled over. also my standard plates do the job fine for me, i'm not too fussed on their look! its just a hypothetical debate from my point of view. have a good evening yourself 
[Edited on 20-01-2010 by Burny]
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Root
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by Burny
actually, the police say they're legal...just so happens they're on the internet.
how do you know they are police? i work for the police force. any form of pressed plate isnt legal and drivers can be prosecuted. no matter what anyone tells you. wether or not my fellow officers would bother pulling a car over for it is another matter
they most probably wouldn't simply because it's a hassle and not a regular thing to go through, so it's a pain in the ass compared to others thing they can get a driver done for. To be fair, the police around here have been quite good to me, I have done many things wrong, including at 3am once powersliding around a corner, then entering a roundabout going anti-clockwise and exiting on the wrong side of the road on the roundabout. And they let me off with a warning...I was VERY stupid and young then and won't do that again but they have been quite fair to me to be honest, considering I have been caught speeding and more with them and the most I have got so far is a section 59. They aren't as strict and dickhead-ish as most people would believe. And when they do pull you, sometimes they are looking out for yours and others' safety, which is totally understandable
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DannyB
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Originally posted by Burny
either way, i believe they're legal, you don't. i feel a stalemate.
They aren't, hence the reason they sell every other type of plate barring legal ones as ''show plates''
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Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by James_DT
The actual law:
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2001/uksi_20010561_en.pdf
Nothing in there stops a pressed plate being legal, as long as it conforms to the usual rules.
No additions or variations are permitted. Common illegal variations are:
* Fancy or decorative typefaces
* Bolts placed in such a way as to alter the appearance of characters
* Adjusted spacing between characters or character groups
* Altered characters
* Additional logos or symbols, such as sporting emblems and religious symbols.
 im confused. a pressed plate is altering the character. thus making it illegal.
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James_DT
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No it isn't. The character itself is flat and unaltered, it's the surface around it that's raised.
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sand-eel
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I've got german stamped plates (well on the back) and I haven't been pulled in a year of ownership.
Just get something that isn't too shit and it will be ok.
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P1CK4D
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I would have said a pressed plate IS NOT a plate a standard car would come with making it Illegal.
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P1CK4D
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Originally posted by James_DT
No it isn't. The character itself is flat and unaltered, it's the surface around it that's raised.
If the surface is altered, a part of the plate is altered, making it illegal?
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James_DT
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I would have said a pressed plate IS NOT a plate a standard car would come with making it Illegal.
You're right, but that's YOUR wording.
A pre-1973 car can wear the white/yellow plates, but that isn't the plate the standard car would have come with from the show room.
There's nothing in the regulations on the DVLA site that say a pressed plate is illegal simply because it's pressed.
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James_DT
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Originally posted by P1CK4D
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Originally posted by James_DT
No it isn't. The character itself is flat and unaltered, it's the surface around it that's raised.
If the surface is altered, a part of the plate is altered, making it illegal?
It specifies that the character can't be altered, and it isn't.
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