mwg
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Originally posted by Marc
Not sure if this has been said, but I reckon it will affect a lot of country pubs.
Good point.
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Tomnova16
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if im driving then i never drink at all, i only drink to get drunk  binge drinker
What about the morning though....how will you know for sure that there is no alcohol in your system at all??
I can hazard an educated guess as to when i'll be ok just now.......if they make it zero tollerence though im not sure I could.
Would to be worth going out on the Fri night if you need to pop into work on the Sat afternoon??
I just think its all a bag of shit tbh, the people that come up with these rules dont live in the real work & dont have a fucking clue!!
yeah the morning thing is a problem tbh so yes it would be shit.
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ed
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You can't have a limit of zero because naturally there is always a small amount of alcohol in your blood.
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Paul_J
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Just out of interest paul what "light weight drugs" are you reffering too, some people may think you lost any credibility by trying to legalize the hash there you big hippy
Heroin? 
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fir3vip3r
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I dont think its a law that can be blanketed with a set level.
As touched on in this thread, everybody's body takes to alcohol differently. Ive spoken to people who can barely stand yet are under the limit and Ive spoken to coherent people who are aware of there surroundings are well over.
I feel punsihments should be harsher, then people would think twice about drinking at all, risking being over!
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oceansoul
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Not read this thread...cba at the mo.
But i think it should be brought in line with the EU drink drive limit. Its a stupidly low limit, but not zero. I think making it zero is just silly.
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jonnysri
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Originally posted by DannyB
It should be zero, one or the other. Drink OR drive.
exactly
close thread
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Colin
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Originally posted by jonnysri
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Originally posted by DannyB
It should be zero, one or the other. Drink OR drive.
exactly
close thread
I agree, its bloody hard to multi task & do more than one thing at once.
Still nothing wrong with having a pint THEN driving though, nothing wrong at all!! 
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Brett
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Totally agree, should be zero.
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Adam_B
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Nothing wrong with how it is now. Penaltys should be much tougher though for people who are proper smashed.
[Edited on 16-06-2010 by Adam_B]
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N3CRO
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Originally posted by Colin
I dont think theres anything wrong with the current system at all.
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ed
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I think it works well too. You can be done if you're over the limit, you can get done if you're drunk and under the limit. You can have a glass of wine/pint with your lunch and then drive home and not cause anyone any hassle. It's all about being grown up and sensible.
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N3CRO
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Originally posted by ed
It's all about being grown up and sensible.
Nail on head 
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noshua
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They should just do this, although with the current limit:
He also recommends that the current mandatory 12-month driving ban should be maintained for the new 50mg limit.
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Ian
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Originally posted by DannyB
Speak to someone who's lost a relative/friend to a drink driver and you may change your views.
And while you're there, ask them whether said drink driver had drunk a pint with his dinner and driven sensibly or whether he was clearly pissed and openly flouting the system while driving without consideration for others?
My guess - and it's not substantiated with figures - is that drink drive deaths are predominantly caused by people who are somewhat over the limit and that a reduction of the limit to below 80mg wouldn't even apply to them as they're already over the limit according to the old limit, never mind the new one.
I also question the figures in the article that you can reduce deaths by enforcing the limits - surely you only find out about this after they've already crashed? Means you can more harshly punish people who have been in accidents - but saving lives? Perhaps too late.
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DannyB
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The point of that comment was to point out why I'm so against drinking even one pint whilst driving. I just don't think the 2 should ever be mixed. One pint or ten.
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Ian
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Originally posted by VXR
you might not look quite as cool though.
They gave 2 people 4 pints each.
Firstly what are you on about, looking cool. I don't choose what i drink to look cool?
If I want Coke, I'll get Coke. If I want beer, I'll get beer. Depends what I want, not what I feel I should buy. Where do you dream this up.
Secondly we're not talking about 4 pints here. 4 pints would put you, in most real-life situations, quite far over.
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Ian
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Originally posted by DannyB
I'd like to know the figures for accidents of people who have just had 1 pint then drove actually
I've never seen these quoted and if I was being cynical I would say it's because you could attribute accidents to other factors and it wouldn't support the draconian policies.
Doing the speed limit while sober is as dangerous if you're not paying attention.
Sadly there is no attentiveness test that you can use to spin money or win votes.
[Edited on 16-06-2010 by Ian]
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Ian
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Originally posted by Benji D
if you believe one pint has no effect on the human body your dillusional
I agree with you - I just think in context the affect that it has is comparable to other factors. Being tired as a case-in-point. Equally dangerous but not enforced.
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Ian
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Originally posted by Benji D
what if an 18 year old who has no tolerance for alcohol has a pint and then drives home
He will crash because he's 18.
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mattk
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summat got my goat about this before on the 6 o clock news...
typical woman, sat in her living room with a picture of her daughter that was killed by a drink driver that was 3 TIMES over the limit, she predicably says she welcomes the reduction of the drink drive limit
what aload of fucking bollocks
did that drink driver being 3 times over the limit for one second consider what the limit was, Im willing to guess he didnt think at all
the only thing it would have changed in this womans case is that the person that killed her daughter would have been 6 times over the limit and not 3
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Ian
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Originally posted by mattk
the person that killed her daughter would have been 6 times over the limit and not 3
That's a far better headline, it makes sense now
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Andrew
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Seen a bit of this one the news earlier.
Drinking after a pint i'm fine but drinking the day after is quite scary. I know i'm not as confident and reactive as i would be normally. Worries me that if i actually was pulled over i'd be screwed if i had to take a breath test. If they had coppers out doing these tests on a Saturday morning a lot of people would be facing a ban imo.
I won't drink when i have to drive the next day anymore, not worth the risks.
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Steve
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The review was commissioned by Labour and it is not certain that the new government will adopt its findings.
conservatives wont be up for this
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