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Butler
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19th Jul 10 at 00:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Does it get busier than that? Expect it probably will be on Saturday. Looks like a great spot though. Better pack my camping chair by the looks of it. There a pub nearby?
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Yeah about a 15-20 minute walk.
Daimo B
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Good pics for viewing on a monday morning.

Hercules new props.
C5 - Mega
F22 - Spank
jr
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stu u2u on exactley how to get there and where to park
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I am very tempted to make my way up there on Sunday! That spot looks awesome! Farnborough is only about hour drive up the motorway for me.......

How do you get to that spot then?
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stu u2u on exactley how to get there and where to park


will do that for you sir when I get home from work.
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Originally posted by jr
stu u2u on exactley how to get there and where to park


will do that for you sir when I get home from work.


And me please!?
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Cool piks mate what camera did you use?
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Great pics, thanks for posting

F16`s still look the tits after all these years.

excellent shots of the red arrows display.
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quote:
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Good pics for viewing on a monday morning.

Hercules new props.

Its an airbus a400m not a hurcules.
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Not my pics so can't tell you what cam, was someone else from another forum that went


Drives supercharged Tec with torque
Butler
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quote:
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quote:
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stu u2u on exactley how to get there and where to park


will do that for you sir when I get home from work.

I think I found the viewing spot on google maps, could you post me a link to the car park though pretty please?
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im not really up to date on planes.

but i was thinking this as we've recently had a eurofighter and f22 fly over my work the last couple of days.

who would win in a redbull air race style

Raptor vs Eurofighter
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The Raptor has compromised aerodynamics due to stealth where as the Eurofighter is designed for utmost manoeuvrability. So my money would be on the Eurofighter tbh.


I would rather lose by a mile because i built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me.
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I went for a drive over to Farnborough yesterday to see if I could see anything on the runway, couldn't see owt.
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Why do you refer to it as Eurofighter? Typhoon is surely more apt for the UK?
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quote:
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Its an airbus a400m not a hurcules.


Interlectual Property anyone? Blatent copy and modernised
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Why do you refer to it as Eurofighter? Typhoon is surely more apt for the UK?


Because it wasn't designed by one country, and funded by 4 IIRC?

Hence EUROfighter?
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It was slightly ridiculous when the raptor came out, whole day there was a series of speakers commentating on each plane and running you though the manoeuvres. All of them very interesting. The raptor came out and some stupid American guy stepped up to the mic and did the most unnecessarily dramatic, movie trailer type commentating. Don't understand why the Americans have to over dramatise everything
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eurofighter, typhoon. to'mato tom'ato

Edit: currently got a typhoon flying over work.
as i type this tho its prob a thousand miles away

[Edited on 19-07-2010 by Budgie]
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quote:
Originally posted by Budgie
who would win in a redbull air race style



RBAR - Eurofighter, without fair.

Air Battle, F22, unless they got close enough for a dog fight, in which case Eurofighter. But as most air battles are done over distance and missiles now and not dogfights, i'd still say the F22 would win. Eurofighter wouldn't be able to track it down (Ste will confirm/deny this though).
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Also, It is only a Typhoon if it is a RAF one. I work on UK and Saudi ones so I'm not going to give them different names depending on what aircraft I'm working on that day.


I would rather lose by a mile because i built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me.
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quote:
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Why do you refer to it as Eurofighter? Typhoon is surely more apt for the UK?


Because it wasn't designed by one country, and funded by 4 IIRC?

Hence EUROfighter?


Do you want a cuddle or what? Because it's days like this where I really could walk up to you and give you a gigantic sloppy kiss on your lug holes.
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I'd rather you stick your lips on my anal entrance for extra pleasure.
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quote:
Originally posted by Daimo B
quote:
Originally posted by Budgie
who would win in a redbull air race style



RBAR - Eurofighter, without fair.

Air Battle, F22, unless they got close enough for a dog fight, in which case Eurofighter. But as most air battles are done over distance and missiles now and not dogfights, i'd still say the F22 would win. Eurofighter wouldn't be able to track it down (Ste will confirm/deny this though).


This is a difficult one and one where people assume stealth has a part to play in a dog fight or even long range air interception.

What you need to remember, is for a stealth plane to 'see' it's enemy it has to use RADAR, which transmits a high powered radio wave. This is easily detected by a Eurofighters avionics and using mono-pulse interferometry it can pin point where the stealth plane is. Basically it is like someone completely in the dark in black overalls. to see you they need to shine a torch. so you now see them.

Stealth is useful for bombers to avoid Radar guided AA but nowadays we have enough capability that we already know where the radar sites are so can fly around them or high enough that they pose no threat. Bombs now use guidance so can be released higher up and wind etc has no effect on them as they steer themselves to target.

Also, remember, the Raptor and Eurofighter carry basically the same air intercept missiles but the Eurofighter carries more of them as it doesn't need to hide them away. And the most succesful missile is the AIM 9L sidewinder which detects heat. the Raptor still emits a huge heat signature as the engines need to be so powerful due to its massive drag.

Still I think the EFA would win. Stealth is so over rated.




I would rather lose by a mile because i built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me.

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