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Ian
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15th Feb 12 at 14:57   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Quite right he's depressed, it's a very easy place to arrive at.

I know it if I haven't tidied up my flat, its depressing to see it like that and it gets worse unless you sort it out.

I could leave it and let it get worse but you need to deal with it.
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I think on the most part it's nothing more than jealousy. These people get to chill all day and do what they want on the most part, money permitting. I'd choose that over pride, which means jack.


Id get bored sitting at home all day. I get bored on my one day off I a fortnight

I would work in a supermarket just to give me something to do, keep me occupied. Plus you would get to meet some new work mates and have some banter (hopefully) with them.
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quote:
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Looks quite obvious to me his depressed.




The welfare state is NOT an alternative lifestyle it is a LAST RESORT!


Tell that to the government
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I'd rather go back to working in maccy d's than be on the dole, seriously.
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Is that Ben G?
John
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Anyone on the dole who smokes should have that money docked from benefits.

Smoking costs an absolute fortune, why should you be allowed to do that for not bothering to work.
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It's an addiction John. They HAVE to smoke.
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Anyone on the dole who smokes should have that money docked from benefits.

Smoking costs an absolute fortune, why should you be allowed to do that for not bothering to work.


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This came up on CS last week I'm sure, but why not issue storecards or tokens which can only be used on essentials, get a portion of it automatically peeled off for bills and then leave it at that.

Stop giving them money, start giving them the services/supplies they need to survive - any "treats" should be earned, end of.

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Thing is, if I was in his boat, I'd be making the most of the free time I had.

e.g. Getting seriously fit, going for runs every day, using whatever I had to hand to do workouts.

Probably try to make some start up ideas / mobile apps / maybe program up a game as a hobby.

Would probably spend a lot of my time reading stuff, learning new things, trying to widen my knowledge / skill base.

If seriously bored like he was, I'd go volunteer somewhere, go help out for free. At least it would remove the guilt for doing nothing and would get me out of the house.

- The reality is, the same lack of will power / drive, that made him fail at school, is now causing him to fail at life. He'll always moan / throw excuses out / expect hand outs.
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Probably try to make some start up ideas / mobile apps / maybe program up a game as a hobby.



Pending your fathers approval, of course.
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You'd do something to help better yourself wouldn't you though
Paul_J
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quote:
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Probably try to make some start up ideas / mobile apps / maybe program up a game as a hobby.



Pending your fathers approval, of course.


To be honest, he wouldn't let me get in that situation anyway. He'd rather I was out stacking shelves than sitting at home.
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It's an addiction John. They HAVE to smoke.



Bollocks.

I quit on new years. I found it easy and i have to money to smoke if i wish. If i was broke it would be even easier!

Smoking is a luxury! So he can GTF tbh
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Although this is digressing onto another topic, quitting smoking isn't necessarily easy for another just because it was for you. All down to circumstance.
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Although this is digressing onto another topic, quitting smoking isn't necessarily easy for another just because it was for you. All down to circumstance.


Pretty sure any 'normal' person would choose to be warm over smoking

[Edited on 15-02-2012 by Gary]
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Cavey
It's an addiction John. They HAVE to smoke.



Bollocks.

I quit on new years. I found it easy and i have to money to smoke if i wish. If i was broke it would be even easier!

Smoking is a luxury! So he can GTF tbh


You quit? Fuck off.
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why doesnt he just smoke with the window shut?
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No shit welshy
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why doesnt he just smoke with the window shut?


Second hand smoke
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i believe that if someone wants a job they can find a job, id do anything, bar work, bin man, shelf stacker, warehouse... far rather earnmin wage than dole
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Brett
Although this is digressing onto another topic, quitting smoking isn't necessarily easy for another just because it was for you. All down to circumstance.


Pretty sure any 'normal' person would choose to be warm over smoking

[Edited on 15-02-2012 by Gary]

Ah right, sorry didn't read the article. Didn't realise he'd said he couldn't afford heating because he smokes.
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Originally posted by Gary
quote:
Originally posted by john-d
why doesnt he just smoke with the window shut?


Second hand smoke



saves buying more tabs if he locks it inside
Sunz
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Some people here still have this view "if I can do it they can to"

Because we are all the same, lived the same lifes.

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