Graham88
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Only just got rid of the run flats on her Mini.. horrid things!!
It's nice, but it's also on the Isle of Wight and miles away 
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A2H GO
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As a guide price mine is a year older than Maces and I paid under £11k from a dealer around 12 months ago, same options. I would expect to pay £9-10k now for similar spec, facelift etc.
BMW aero spoiler and BMW alpine upgrade and mine is finished.
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Graham88
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It's just a case of trying to find the right car with the right specs, that's way under what I was thinking I'd have to spend so that's a winner if I can find the right one
Sounds good plans, I like the red, seeing as most of my cars have been red!
[Edited on 16-05-2012 by Graham88]
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Mase
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Originally posted by Graham88
It's nice, but it's also on the Isle of Wight and miles away
Didn't look at the location!
Mase
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Graham88
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Graham88
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http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3678335.htm
Hasn't got Xenons but its alot cheaper than any others I've seen so far, whitter can Xenons be retrofitted? You can get the headlights for about £600 but it might be different wiring....
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whitter45
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hi mate
xexons can be retrofitted but its simply isnt worth it as you need to code ECU etc
Few guys are now doing these which i don't think think look too bad
Having had xexons on the 120D and not on the 118D I can say they perform much better and also look the part with DRL's
However my unit failed on the 120D and the cost was over £1500 to fix
Also if looking for xexons get ones with adaptive lights as they are much better
Do not think xenons will be a deal breaker for me but if you can get them they are a nice option to have
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Graham88
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Yeah I'm just used to them on my M3 and she has them on her Cooper S. Those Ring things in the headlights are really growing on me although I prefer the white ones?
I know they're expensive to fix, I really like that silver one I posted. Aslong as it has other spec the Xenons can be overlooked I suppose. And surely coding the ECU can't be that hard? Just a bit of ££
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whitter45
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silver one looks good as it has full leather and also the aero spoiler which finishes it off nicely
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Graham88
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You know what I didn't even notice that but I wondered why it looked so different
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whitter45
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in terms of xenons they need coding but also a new footwell controller if its not a version 3 module which you can check on the barcode of the controller
Would also need new front bumper with washer jets etc
There is an adaptive kit out there that only requires the footwell module recoding or replacing but costs are still high
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Graham88
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That's true I didn't think of the bumper and washer jets with these new MOT rules. Might go have a look at the weekend
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whitter45
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Graham
you may want to make yourself aware of timing chain issues
like anything on the interet it cant be taken as gospel but my mate has had a few cars in his garage now woth this and the forums are appearing more and more with this listed
N47 engines to early Jan 2009 had a crank that caused the chains to be shaved down the side. This causes the problems, pulls the chain and wears the guides and can cause the chain to overrun the sprocket, snapping it. It makes an *intermittent* chatter when it starts due to just one part of the sprocket/chain catching (that quickly gets continuous).
After replacement of the crank with the new design of crank, they then found that there was more noise which was continuous - this was caused by the ribs on the inside of the guides (so I am told) catching the chain. This always is a more continous and quieter sound. Some unlucky people have had the engine out three times - once to swap the guides, then they swapped the crank, when they found that was the problem, and then they had them again to fit new guides....
So if you car is N47 built before about Feb 2009 you will need a new crank and shells, from Feb 2009 to sometime in 2011 you need new guides only.
Personally not had this issue on 3 N47 engines but be aware
can affect 116D, 118D, 120D and 123D engines
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A2H GO
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^^Not come across that issue before, interesting.
To do the xenon retrofit properly your looking at £2k+, need lights, balasts, bumper, washer jets, bottom arms, footwell module, switch, codeing and lot of other stuff.
http://www.babybmw.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=34566
Areo spoiler finishes the back of the hatches off nicely.
[Edited on 18-05-2012 by A2H GO]
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CORSA NUT
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Had this problem when buying our QashQai graham, we ended up goin the higher mileage/top spec and havent regretted it since, although we've just spent out £350 on the cambelt 
Our was an 07 plate with 68k with Keyless, Nav, Dual climate, Panormamic sunroof with cover, Heated seats etc
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whitter45
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Originally posted by A2H GO
^^Not come across that issue before, interesting.
To do the xenon retrofit properly your looking at £2k+, need lights, balasts, bumper, washer jets, bottom arms, footwell module, switch, codeing and lot of other stuff.
http://www.babybmw.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=34566
Areo spoiler finishes the back of the hatches off nicely.
[Edited on 18-05-2012 by A2H GO]
Yeah not experienced it myself but my mate had a 118d in last week with exact problem on an 08.
http://babybmw.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=35965
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Graham88
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Whitter is that a recall from BMW?
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Originally posted by CORSA NUT
Had this problem when buying our QashQai graham, we ended up goin the higher mileage/top spec and havent regretted it since, although we've just spent out £350 on the cambelt
Our was an 07 plate with 68k with Keyless, Nav, Dual climate, Panormamic sunroof with cover, Heated seats etc
She still really likes that Coupe doesn't stop going on about it. But it's 250miles away do can't exactly pop out & look at it! :-/
That's not even high mileage, I don't really know what I view as high mileage really? Sounds nice, I think the BMW's are mostly cam chain so that won't be a problem
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John
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Every time we get a BMW thread they seem to have more known issues that Vauxhall do?
Also, £1500 for a headlight seems a bit worse than £1500 for a gearbox.
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Graham88
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You pay for quality, same as everything else in life
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whitter45
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quote:
Originally posted by Graham88
Whitter is that a recall from BMW?
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Originally posted by CORSA NUT
Had this problem when buying our QashQai graham, we ended up goin the higher mileage/top spec and havent regretted it since, although we've just spent out £350 on the cambelt
Our was an 07 plate with 68k with Keyless, Nav, Dual climate, Panormamic sunroof with cover, Heated seats etc
She still really likes that Coupe doesn't stop going on about it. But it's 250miles away do can't exactly pop out & look at it! :-/
That's not even high mileage, I don't really know what I view as high mileage really? Sounds nice, I think the BMW's are mostly cam chain so that won't be a problem
not that I am aware - if you read the threads BMW will provide % pay as good will but its an engine out job with 12 hrs labour so on labour alone your looking at 1500 plus at BMW
Just to make you aware of it - like I have said I have had 3 N47 engines and never come across this
But my mate who is a mechanic has had a few in over the last few months
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Sunz
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quote:
Originally posted by John
Every time we get a BMW thread they seem to have more known issues that Vauxhall do?
Also, £1500 for a headlight seems a bit worse than £1500 for a gearbox.
You have to expect a lot of faults when you buy quality, it's cutting edge technology, top of the game stuff.
£1500 is a fair price for a BWM headlight due to the quality of the item, it lights up the road in the night time and allows for safe driving in low light situations, German efficiently at it's best.
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Jamescorsa97
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I'm in exactly the same situation atm looking at 120D M Sport and 123D M Sport. test drove both and seem fantastic.
Thanks for pointing out the Chain issues.
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whitter45
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quote:
Originally posted by Sunz
quote:
Originally posted by John
Every time we get a BMW thread they seem to have more known issues that Vauxhall do?
Also, £1500 for a headlight seems a bit worse than £1500 for a gearbox.
You have to expect a lot of faults when you buy quality, it's cutting edge technology, top of the game stuff.
£1500 is a fair price for a BWM headlight due to the quality of the item, it lights up the road in the night time and allows for safe driving in low light situations, German efficiently at it's best.
think you will find any xenon unit including igniter and ballast from any manufacturer will be over 1k per unit/side
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Graham88
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quote:
Originally posted by Jamescorsa97
I'm in exactly the same situation atm looking at 120D M Sport and 123D M Sport. test drove both and seem fantastic.
Thanks for pointing out the Chain issues.
Did you notice much difference?
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Originally posted by whitter45
not that I am aware - if you read the threads BMW will provide % pay as good will but its an engine out job with 12 hrs labour so on labour alone your looking at 1500 plus at BMW
Just to make you aware of it - like I have said I have had 3 N47 engines and never come across this
But my mate who is a mechanic has had a few in over the last few months
So it's kind of like the subframe issue on the E46 then, ok cheers!
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Jamescorsa97
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quote:
Originally posted by Graham88
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Originally posted by Jamescorsa97
I'm in exactly the same situation atm looking at 120D M Sport and 123D M Sport. test drove both and seem fantastic.
Thanks for pointing out the Chain issues.
Did you notice much difference?
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Originally posted by whitter45
not that I am aware - if you read the threads BMW will provide % pay as good will but its an engine out job with 12 hrs labour so on labour alone your looking at 1500 plus at BMW
Just to make you aware of it - like I have said I have had 3 N47 engines and never come across this
But my mate who is a mechanic has had a few in over the last few months
So it's kind of like the subframe issue on the E46 then, ok cheers!
Not really. obviously had abit more poke but i'm going for 120D, purely for mpg tax and insurance saving and 177 bhp is more than enough. Excellent drives.
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