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Ben J

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25th Sep 12 at 09:18

I know its Wiki but...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_rally

Ben J

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25th Sep 12 at 09:42

Mainly pics and vid at end but Road Rally, public road, no helmets, pics/vid don't suggest they are going that slow?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP_R1Ci5GHQ&feature=fvwrel

[Edited on 25-09-2012 by Ben J]

Steve

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25th Sep 12 at 09:53

But all limits still have to be adhered to? its technically not allowing you any more than you can do on public roads at any time or day

Steve

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25th Sep 12 at 09:57

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As with most other forms of rallying, a road rally crew consists of a driver, a navigator and a car. The roles that the members of the crew play are somewhat different to those of their counterparts on, for example, a special stage rally.

Comparing it to other sports, road rallying is like a fast paced version of orienteering, done in a car instead of on foot.

Road rallies are legally restricted to an average speed of 30 mph. The object is to follow the correct route while maintaining this average speed, no faster, no slower. The "30 average" may not sound very fast, but there are a number of obstacles to slow competitors down; maintaining the required average speed in practice requires some enthusiastic driving.

Steve

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25th Sep 12 at 09:59

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The most sensible approach is to drive at a moderate pace as you would if you were not doing a motorsport event, and to concentrate as a crew on getting the navigation right and getting all the code boards. After a few rallies, when you build up a rapport and your navigator becomes proficient at reading the road, use this information to help you judge the corner ahead, but never trust the reading.

even says there iots not motorsport,

anyway to go back on topic, its not something i imagine would interest warren, and its nothing like rallying in the classic sense that everyone thinks of

Ben J

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25th Sep 12 at 10:04

I think like with everything, the speed limits are loosley followed.

Ben J

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25th Sep 12 at 10:08

You should have a crack at it in the Puma. You'd need to raise the coilovers, put a sump guard and spots on and a set of mud and snows.

Think you'd enjoy it.

Tbh it would be pretty easy to make your Puma really versatile so you could do track days, sprint hill climbs, autotests, road rallies.

[Edited on 25-09-2012 by Ben J]

djgritt

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25th Sep 12 at 10:31

quote:
Originally posted by Steve

quote:
The most sensible approach is to drive at a moderate pace as you would if you were not doing a motorsport event, and to concentrate as a crew on getting the navigation right and getting all the code boards. After a few rallies, when you build up a rapport and your navigator becomes proficient at reading the road, use this information to help you judge the corner ahead, but never trust the reading.

even says there its not motorsport,

No it doesn't?

My uncles used to do Night Rallies (Road Rallies) back in the 80's/90's in their proper Rally cars used for conventional stage rallying;

Yeah you have to maintain an average speed, but I'm sure on some of the minor country roads that are used it proves difficult.
It is definitely more technical than it appears.

Ben J

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25th Sep 12 at 10:43

Steve's been to the Ring though, so he must be right.

Robin

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25th Sep 12 at 10:48

Max5 or Ma5da series
BMW compact cup

Steve

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25th Sep 12 at 10:56

quote:
Originally posted by Ben J
Steve's been to the Ring though, so he must be right.

nope, just read the rules thats all

Robin

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25th Sep 12 at 10:57

http://www.bmwracedays.co.uk/2011-compact-cup/

Robin

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25th Sep 12 at 20:14

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
ps.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MSA-British-Touring-Car-Championship-09-Champions-Vectra-C-S2000-/190728103699

This was so fucking cheap.

Paul_J

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25th Sep 12 at 21:55

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Originally posted by Ian

quote:
Originally posted by Warren G
cost £500 one weekend on fuel and trailor hire, that what was the killer for me

Where was that? Does seem a bit of a shit deal.

I'd say more than £500.

£355 entry fee inc transponder hire
£90 weekend trailer hire
£120 fuel at least getting car to track and back towing trailer
£30 oil
£70 fuel in race car

That's £665 not including wear on tyres / brakes and other bits

Paul_J

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25th Sep 12 at 21:58

I still think someone should buy my half of the teg and race with you next year.

P.s my dad just told me he can't come to snetterton so we've got that problem again of getting the car there.

If the car is fully working after snetterton I'd be half tempted to do brands in nov, as we've always been good there and the new LSD should give us a edge over before

jrdn7

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25th Sep 12 at 22:03

quote:
Originally posted by Paul_J

quote:
Originally posted by Ian

quote:
Originally posted by Warren G
cost £500 one weekend on fuel and trailor hire, that what was the killer for me

Where was that? Does seem a bit of a shit deal.

I'd say more than £500.

£355 entry fee inc transponder hire
£90 weekend trailer hire
£120 fuel at least getting car to track and back towing trailer
£30 oil
£70 fuel in race car

That's £665 not including wear on tyres / brakes and other bits

Christ that's not bad, mate of mine was charged £50 a day Friday-Sunday for a trailer which was just about big enough for his S1600 Saxo.

VrsTurbo

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26th Sep 12 at 08:54

Price on buying half the teg?

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26th Sep 12 at 09:29

its expensive however you look at it, if you can't afford it/going to moan then don't do it.

antnee

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26th Sep 12 at 13:56

It sounds retarded, but the cheapest way is to have everything. Trailers can be picked up for less than £500 and it won't loose value, the transponder is the same.

I budget 3-400 for a trackday, racing is always going to be more

VrsTurbo

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26th Sep 12 at 14:02

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Originally posted by antnee
It sounds retarded, but the cheapest way is to have everything. Trailers can be picked up for less than £500 and it won't loose value, the transponder is the same.

I budget 3-400 for a trackday, racing is always going to be more

I hope that includes the track day too!

mine for a track day -

£100 Fuel (depending on track)
£75 Tyres and Brakes
£30 Oil Change

Ian

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26th Sep 12 at 14:04

Warren said fuel and trailer for £500, hence my confusion.

I'm not really sure you'll get any other form of motorsport any cheaper.

Would cost about that to do a track day, entry fee is less but the other expenses are about the same.

Aside from buying a trailer, there's no other way to get the others down, and you've got to service it, store it etc. etc.

antnee

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26th Sep 12 at 14:11

If you have a trailer, you can make money from it too, picking up broken cars for people, etc

Buying a transponder will remove the rental costs each weekend.

VRS, yeah 1-200 for the day, 80ish on fuel, then food, tyres, brakes. Oil and brake fluid is free for me