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taylorboosh
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Originally posted by Pip308
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Originally posted by LiVe LeE
How much did the services cost - assuming it was serviced at least annually? and insurance, MoT and Tax for the duration that it appreciated from £25k to £30-£35k.

[Edited on 10-12-2012 by LiVe LeE]


insurance is covered under all 4 of his and mum's cars at around £600 and servicing is the same as your average saloon apart from a major with all belts and oil seals (engine out job) which was around £1k

for a car he uses as much as possible, he enjoys and drives it properly I'd say that's not too bad.

still cheaper than the depreciation and servicing (combined) on a new car




Thanks for owning all the internet know it alls in here mate.
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Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
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Originally posted by LiVe LeE
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Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
Does anyone here actually have an interesting point of view at all? An argument with any kind of substance behind it?

Or are people in crappy cars going to sit about telling someone what they can and can't afford




I could legitimitely afford to go and buy, insure and run an AM V8 Vantage today, however, as I don't have a kitchen, living room or dining room in my house - I couldn't justify it and that's what my argument comes down to - Justification.

I have a pretty boring car but then I have a Hovercraft and a Sinclair C5 which are ultimately more alluring than your Corrado.




See i appreciate your opinion, a hovercraft is cool (not sure about the C5) am sure you would rather be enjoying the hovercraft than buying something like a BMW M3 and getting bored of it or having to spend thousands to make it seem special.

I would prefer my corrado to a hovercraft though.


So you're saying you'd rather have your Corrado over a Ferarri because only mindless people buy Ferarris and subsequently get bored of them?
Pip308
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Hovercraft has collectively cost <£600 between us and been a lot of fun to rebuild - However, we're not talking about cheap toys in this instance, we're talking about having a £30k car in the garage barely being used; aside from bragging rights, how would that bring any sort of contentment or happiness bar the few days it may actually get used?


it's all dependant on circumstances.

if i was just married with a kid on the way i'd rather have 30k in the bank

if i was 50+ with low mortgage repayments and grown up kids i'd rather have a 30K car to spank about in
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I think he's saying that owning a Ferrari and owning a Corrado is basically the same thing...

I'm not even sure what people are discussing in here.
Whether the banned and now reincarnated John-D can and will buy a Ferrari?


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60k is the minimum I'd need to put down on a 2 bed semi here.
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quote:
Originally posted by taylorboosh
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Originally posted by Pip308
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Originally posted by LiVe LeE
How much did the services cost - assuming it was serviced at least annually? and insurance, MoT and Tax for the duration that it appreciated from £25k to £30-£35k.

[Edited on 10-12-2012 by LiVe LeE]


insurance is covered under all 4 of his and mum's cars at around £600 and servicing is the same as your average saloon apart from a major with all belts and oil seals (engine out job) which was around £1k

for a car he uses as much as possible, he enjoys and drives it properly I'd say that's not too bad.

still cheaper than the depreciation and servicing (combined) on a new car




Thanks for owning all the internet know it alls in here mate.


Except we were never arguing about a new car vs an old Ferrari. My argument was that Pop said that he'd like to see £30k in the bank make £10k over 5-6years but realistically in his case, the car hasn't made £10k, it has appreciated by £5-10k but its made maybe £0-5k at best assuming the bills all add up to about £5k for 5-6 years of running.

John can do wtf he wants but for me, its down to justification - I couldn't justify tying up money in something that a) barely gets used, b) is costing me more money than its making or c) I didn't have the funds for in the first place
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I'm on about how not to get bored of your car by thinking ahead and not buying something because its suddenly internet cool and affordable, why did he buy the M3?

i bet the main factors were
-people on CS were buying them
-Its a £50k car for £10k
-0-60 and BHP figures

Now he has a car he has hardly used, cost him quite a lot of money and now he doesn't even want it.

Its like people have a little pot of money and when a car devalues to their pot amount then thats the right car all of a sudden. It seems to be about getting the newest, most powerful car for your money.
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quote:
Originally posted by taylorboosh
quote:
Originally posted by Pip308
quote:
Originally posted by LiVe LeE
How much did the services cost - assuming it was serviced at least annually? and insurance, MoT and Tax for the duration that it appreciated from £25k to £30-£35k.

[Edited on 10-12-2012 by LiVe LeE]


insurance is covered under all 4 of his and mum's cars at around £600 and servicing is the same as your average saloon apart from a major with all belts and oil seals (engine out job) which was around £1k

for a car he uses as much as possible, he enjoys and drives it properly I'd say that's not too bad.

still cheaper than the depreciation and servicing (combined) on a new car




Thanks for owning all the internet know it alls in here mate.


I'm not bragging as they're not my cars but my dads.

the facts are that:

my dad has a ferrari 355spider, a 308gtsi and a mitsubishi shogun (2001)
and mum drives a aston db7 v12 vantage

their insurance and running costs are less than my auntie and uncle who get new cars every three years (bmw and mercs)
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quote:
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Originally posted by chrisritch
Thought he was getting a Ferrari



Working his way up mate, don't see why you find that so funny. I know people that pay more than £20k for fords.

He has a good job, own house, mrs is studying to be a nurse. They will easily be able to buy one with a £60k per annum househod income. The problem is they are 2 wearers and he has a child now. Much like the c3 vette.


Sorry, do you think £60k per year is enough to own a Ferrari?

Kids or no kids, £60k is not enough to own a Ferrari.
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quote:
Originally posted by Balling
I think he's saying that owning a Ferrari and owning a Corrado is basically the same thing...

I'm not even sure what people are discussing in here.
Whether the banned and now reincarnated John-D can and will buy a Ferrari?


i would agree that owning a ferrari and corrado are basically the same

both are drivers cars that you dont see very often on the roads and given the right upkeep wont really lose money. old vw that are kept nice dont lose money
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quote:
Originally posted by Balling
I think he's saying that owning a Ferrari and owning a Corrado is basically the same thing...

I'm not even sure what people are discussing in here.
Whether the banned and now reincarnated John-D can and will buy a Ferrari?


Pretty much this. What a bizarre thread.
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Is the M3 his daily car?? Or does he have a 2nd car??
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quote:
Originally posted by James
quote:
Originally posted by taylorboosh
quote:
Originally posted by chrisritch
Thought he was getting a Ferrari



Working his way up mate, don't see why you find that so funny. I know people that pay more than £20k for fords.

He has a good job, own house, mrs is studying to be a nurse. They will easily be able to buy one with a £60k per annum househod income. The problem is they are 2 wearers and he has a child now. Much like the c3 vette.


Sorry, do you think £60k per year is enough to own a Ferrari?

Kids or no kids, £60k is not enough to own a Ferrari.


£60k is easily enough to afford a ferrari.

can pick up a 400i for less than 15k and maintenance is the same as a new hatchback
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quote:
Originally posted by James
quote:
Originally posted by taylorboosh
quote:
Originally posted by chrisritch
Thought he was getting a Ferrari



Working his way up mate, don't see why you find that so funny. I know people that pay more than £20k for fords.

He has a good job, own house, mrs is studying to be a nurse. They will easily be able to buy one with a £60k per annum househod income. The problem is they are 2 wearers and he has a child now. Much like the c3 vette.


Sorry, do you think £60k per year is enough to own a Ferrari?

Kids or no kids, £60k is not enough to own a Ferrari.


Actually let me re-phrase that.

Unless you buy it outright and have absolutely no other outgoings, £60k is not enough to own a Ferrari.
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Is the M3 his daily car?? Or does he have a 2nd car??


quote:
Originally posted by TaylorBooshD
He rarely uses the ///M3 as he simply doesn't need a car.

Pip308
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@james

see my above post

[Edited on 10-12-2012 by Pip308]
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quote:
Originally posted by Balling
I think he's saying that owning a Ferrari and owning a Corrado is basically the same thing...




Its the same type of choice, but on a different scale.

Imagine an internet ferrari meet, with numerous 360s and 430s all parked next to each other, no one cares about each other cars, they all think theirs is the best, despite them being all pretty much the same thing.

Now a guy turns up in his old 1970's ferrari, might of cost a fraction of a brand new 430, but i bet all the modern ferrari owners would flock around and ask questions, rather than walking up to a 430, taking a photos and the only question the guy can answer is how much he paid for it.

I have trouble explaining my thinkings without sounding mad, but i have a go

Its like bringing a mint nova to a corsa meet
Pip308
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Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
quote:
Originally posted by Balling
I think he's saying that owning a Ferrari and owning a Corrado is basically the same thing...




Its the same type of choice, but on a different scale.

Imagine an internet ferrari meet, with numerous 360s and 430s all parked next to each other, no one cares about each other cars, they all think theirs is the best, despite them being all pretty much the same thing.

Now a guy turns up in his old 1970's ferrari, might of cost a fraction of a brand new 430, but i bet all the modern ferrari owners would flock around and ask questions, rather than walking up to a 430, taking a photos and the only question the guy can answer is how much he paid for it.

I have trouble explaining my thinkings without sounding mad, but i have a go

Its like bringing a mint nova to a corsa meet


hear hear
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Pip, how much is a head gasket for a 400i? Or a rear shock, or a headlight switch?
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quote:
Originally posted by Pip308
quote:
Originally posted by James
quote:
Originally posted by taylorboosh
quote:
Originally posted by chrisritch
Thought he was getting a Ferrari



Working his way up mate, don't see why you find that so funny. I know people that pay more than £20k for fords.

He has a good job, own house, mrs is studying to be a nurse. They will easily be able to buy one with a £60k per annum househod income. The problem is they are 2 wearers and he has a child now. Much like the c3 vette.


Sorry, do you think £60k per year is enough to own a Ferrari?

Kids or no kids, £60k is not enough to own a Ferrari.


£60k is easily enough to afford a ferrari.

can pick up a 400i for less than 15k and maintenance is the same as a new hatchback


Apologies - I wasn't considering 25 year old Ferraris.

Surely someone wouldn't go out and buy a 25 year old hunk of rust just so they can say they own a Ferrari?

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Buying and owning something are very different things. As Robin is pointing out.
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quote:
Originally posted by LiVe LeE
quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
Is the M3 his daily car?? Or does he have a 2nd car??


quote:
Originally posted by TaylorBooshD
He rarely uses the ///M3 as he simply doesn't need a car.




I seen that bit, but then i seen the comment about not wanting a 2 seater as he has a kid and GF. Can't imagine them walking everywhere so would assume he had a 2nd car, but was a bit confused as to why he couldn't get a 2 seater.
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James, people buy a 924 just to say they have a Porsche...
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I bought a nova so i could say "novataken"
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James, people buy a 924 just to say they have a Porsche...


I think this is exactly the same for John.

Barely uses the M3 as he dosn't need a car. Having a Ferrari and not needing it or barely using it, to me, sounds like its for cool points.

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