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Poll: Steak
Blue - I am a real man 9 (5.2%)
Rare 36 (20.81%)
Medium Rare 61 (35.26%)
Medium 32 (18.5%)
Medium Well 20 (11.56%)
Well Done - I like to ruin perfectly good meat and should consider vegetarianism 15 (8.67%)


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sc0ott
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19th Mar 13 at 06:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Apart from hammer, does anyone else cook theirs in the microwave?
Carl
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I cook mine in a house coat.
mwg
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quote:
Originally posted by Eck
30 seconds either side, done. If it's anything more than lukewarm in the middle I've cooked it too long


You see when I've had it blue in the past what's put me off is the fact that it's stone cold in the middle. Cook it just a little bit longer turning it regularly it's still rare in the middle but the warmth has managed to get through to the middle without cooking it. Heston Blumenthal might have a stupid name but he knows how to cook a steak!
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Originally posted by Carl
Medium rare for me, nice and pink but not too bloody. If you cook it yourself its very important to rest it. I never used to bother till I saw heston's guide to steaks, worth a watch. He does a test on resukts of resting it against not.


I saw that. That's where I got the turning it every 10-15 seconds thing from too
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19th Mar 13 at 08:57   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Shouldn't be cold in the middle cooked blue, if it is cold then the chef doesn't know how to cook a blue steak
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I was the chef when I cooked it blue therefore it was cold in the middle
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One of my favourites from the US:



Came with the best side dish ever, a blooming onion




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quote:
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I was the chef when I cooked it blue therefore it was cold in the middle


Did you cook it straight out of the fridge or let it come up to room temperature first?
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Straight out the fridge. I know all about leaving it out the fridge for a couple of hours before cooking but this was 2 or 3 years ago before I started to learn how to cook a steak properly and used to just bang it straight in the pan from the fridge then eat it as soon as I'd cooked it
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When I was a bar/restaurant manager in a country pub, you'd often get people sending back a well done steak saying it wasn't done enough even though clearly it was and the chef's response was to batter the shit out of it with a meat hammer and deep fry it-it's surprising how many people then loved the steak even though it was beyond cremated!!
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I'm not that fussed by steak, never seem to be able to find decent stuff round here so it's always got crappy bits in it.
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ive never had a blue steak before mine have always been pinky/redy/brown
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I love steak but I'm terrible at cooking it. Medium for me. I always overvcook it at home. Gaucho is my favourite. Michael Jordan's steakhouse in NYC was also pretty good.
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19th Mar 13 at 09:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Medium, same as chicken
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Tuna.
Ben J
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Hardly any restaurants will do blue steak in Uk these days due to h&S.
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quote:
Originally posted by LiVe LeE
When I was a bar/restaurant manager in a country pub, you'd often get people sending back a well done steak saying it wasn't done enough even though clearly it was and the chef's response was to batter the shit out of it with a meat hammer and deep fry it-it's surprising how many people then loved the steak even though it was beyond cremated!!



I've seen a pissed off Chef set a steak on fire, literally cremate it, and send it out. It was a really nice fillet steak and the customer wanted it well done It got sent back to kitchen twice as it "wasn't well done" so the chef set fire to it with a blow torch. Let it burn then plated it up and sent it out. Customer walked out. Chef didn't GAF.

Week later we got a letter of complaint. Ops Manager read it, asked Chef what had happened. Chef explained. Letter got filed in the bin.

[Edited on 19-03-2013 by Ben J]
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Originally posted by Ben J
Hardly any restaurants will do blue steak in Uk these days due to h&S.


What does health and safety have to say about it?
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quote:
Originally posted by mwg
quote:
Originally posted by Ben J
Hardly any restaurants will do blue steak in Uk these days due to h&S.


What does health and safety have to say about it?



As in??????




Blue steak - higher risk of food poisoning or "claimed" food poisoning. Risk of prosecution/FSA/HSE investigations etc. If you ask for a steak "blue" in alot of restaurants they won't do it. Also maybe because they aren't confident in the quality of their steak too.

If a restaurant does do steak blue, then you can be confident its good quality steak.

Also, a restaurant can't claim to not be at fault if a customers makes a case for food poisoning after "choosing" blue steak. The customer might have asked for it blue, but its the restaurants responsibility to ensure that the food provided is fit and safe for consumption.

I could ask for my steak to be wiped round a urinal after cooking, but no restaurant would do it. Too much risk attached. For some places its the same with blue steak.








[Edited on 19-03-2013 by Ben J]
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As in I was wondering the reasons for health and safety having something to say about it.

Both times I've had a bad steak has been in Spain. Dodgy horse meat probably.
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The best one I saw Ben was a customer sending a meal back because the plate was too cold so the chef of the plate on a gas burner until the sauce was boiling and bubbling on the plate; I had to carry it out with two doubled over cloths and that customer never complained again
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"Health & Safety" as in HSE wouldn't have anything to say about it until a case is raised. Its up to the individual establishment if they want to take the risk. Advice from HSE would probably be not to serve blue, only rare. Hence why alot of places won't.
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quote:
Originally posted by LiVe LeE
The best one I saw Ben was a customer sending a meal back because the plate was too cold so the chef of the plate on a gas burner until the sauce was boiling and bubbling on the plate; I had to carry it out with two doubled over cloths and that customer never complained again



Seen that alot!!


People should learn, you don't fuck with the person preparing your food!

Genuine problem with something is fine, but when people take the piss......

[Edited on 19-03-2013 by Ben J]
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Rare ribeye for me.
Its just too chewy if its any less than rare.
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What would you say was a genuine problem then? Assuming you don't count the above as 'genuine problem'.

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