DC90
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cheers! Will report back with how I do tonight
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Jay
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Are there any advantages of buying a 3 year old instead of 2? Same with Male female?
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Dan
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I added the £3.25 fee incase the horse was good.
However the more I think about it, if the horse is that good that its gonna win the big races u have to enter, surely it will earn £65 easy. Rather than waste £3.25 everytime you buy one, may as well earn it with a good horse.
Im not sure if training and time lead to a faster horse? or if just training brings fitness up but doesn't improve overall speed etc. Cant find that out anywehere I look
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M4tt_Envoy
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quote: Originally posted by Dan
I added the £3.25 fee incase the horse was good.
However the more I think about it, if the horse is that good that its gonna win the big races u have to enter, surely it will earn £65 easy. Rather than waste £3.25 everytime you buy one, may as well earn it with a good horse.
Im not sure if training and time lead to a faster horse? or if just training brings fitness up but doesn't improve overall speed etc. Cant find that out anywehere I look
You have a point, the 3.25 was wasted as my grade 2 horse looks rubbish
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Dan
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been speaking to an expert from a high winning stable this afternoon. Hes told me to retire all my horses as none are good enough.
Basically g2 needs to run 7.5 lengths clear in 1 of its first 3 trials, if you run trials at 1400, 2200, 2850 (all same track and going) 8.5 for a colt.
Mine are miles off the grade. he suggested claiming or auctioning for horses
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Dan
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Gonna stick to g3 racing for now, g2/1 is far too expensive to get into.
Just claimed a horse which isn't far off running good trials, its pretty close, and the expert recommended i run him in a few races, see how he does.
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Jay
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What happens when you retire them? Ive got a G1 horse thats 12+ lengths clear in its trials, G2 is only around 4 lengths, the one I bought ended up being a G3 and its rubbish.
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Jay
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Retired my G2, I could only enter it into paid races and it was never going to be good enough so wasnt paying stable fees for it, my G3 has came out of its shell a bit it and has won a few races now. Ive got another G3 18 Runs, 10 wins, 4 places, if I enter it into paid races is it possible to get the rating to go up if it continues its success, had a little read over the forum but theres so much to take in.
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Dan
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No will always be a g3.
You need to make sure it's 100% running in its best race. Then only run it in that type of race. Otherwise u will just waste your money
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Dan
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Jay post your tt history for the g1
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M4tt_Envoy
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This is my G1 - Dont think its up to much
3200 m Fast 10.13
3200 m Muddy 9.53
3200 m Fast 10.1
3200 m Muddy 9.63
3200 m Fast 10.2
3200 m Muddy 12.2
3200 m Fast 12.2
3200 m Firm 10.43
3200 m Yielding 10.4
2850 m Muddy 9.82
2400 m Good 9.11
3200 m Soft 9.8
2850 m Fast 9.61
2400 m Firm 8.3
2200 m Yielding 7.88
1800 m Muddy 6.48
1600 m Good 5.91
1400 m Soft 5.59
1200 m Fast 4.86
1000 m Firm 3.25
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M4tt_Envoy
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This is my paid for G2
Distance Going Lengths
1800 m Good 3.96
1600 m Soft 4.87
2200 m Firm 2.92
1800 m Yielding 3.4
1600 m Good 6.52
2200 m Soft 5.96
2200 m Soft 5.73
1800 m Fast 4.8
1600 m Firm 5.52
2200 m Yielding 4.62
1800 m Muddy 5.44
1600 m Good 5.43
2200 m Soft 4.77
1800 m Fast 4.04
1600 m Firm 4.61
2200 m Yielding 1.12
1800 m Muddy 2.16
1600 m Good 2.04
1400 m Soft 1.91
1200 m Fast 0.67
1000 m Firm 0.4
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Jay
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Australia (turf)-3200-Soft 12.73
Australia (turf)-3200-Soft 12.90
Australia (turf)-3200-Firm 12.73
Dubai (dirt)-3200-Fast 12.03
Dubai (dirt)-2850-Fast 12.86
Dubai (dirt)-2200-Muddy 11.12
Dubai (dirt)-1800-Muddy 9.64
Dubai (dirt)-1600-Muddy 10.70
Canada (dirt)-1600-Muddy 9.27
Canada (dirt)-1400-Fast 7.64
Canada (dirt)-1400-Fast 7.57
Australia (turf)-1000-Firm 5.85
1st run at the bottom
In a field of 14 Turf 2850 it came 12th
12 Turf 2850 Firm came 11th - Donkey!
[Edited on 04-04-2013 by Jay]
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Dan
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Jay. Export them then email me the files. Need to see the fitness too.
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Jay
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It just goes up 5% on nearly every one, it was on 100% now on 99% after the 2 races
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M4tt_Envoy
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Any one explain what claiming races are?
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Jay
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Not too sure, the forum explains quite a bit if you do some digging, I'm gonna read up on it before I spend another penny
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M4tt_Envoy
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I've created a another account to play around with, wish i read up on bits before spending 15
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Dan
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Claiming races are where you race, but people can buy your horse. So if you have a decent horse in g3, but you only race g1, you can sell it via claims. If no one buys, you still can win money from the races etc.
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M4tt_Envoy
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£35 quid in and a tonne of glue . . . i'm out
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Dan
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:/ im about that in, gonna try auction for a better horse
supposedly a g3 worthy of keeping comes for about12-15 quid
The big yards don't run them, so just sell them on
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Jay
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Im £15 in the red meself
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Jay
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Just read on the forum someone asking for a refund as the horse he bought in the SR is shit what a tit.
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M4tt_Envoy
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Right i had a 3rd place yesterday for one of my G2, thing may not be as bad a first thought, running again tomorrow morning
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Dan
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3rd in what race? What distance is it running? Whats its best TT distance ahead
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