Hammer
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Moyes is going nowhere and rightly so.
I must admit though it is funny watching all the absolute weirdos, like Steve, who have cherry picked Man United to support because they won things now squirm whilst they're in a period of transition.
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Steve
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Unfortunately Moyes has to take the blame either way,
These same players won the league last season, and whilst there is a case to be made that other teams around them have got better, the players are still good enough to be in the top 4, and not be losing to some of the teams they have this season.
So either Moyes tactics are wank, or Moyes is telling them to do the right things and the players aren't doing it, which would be down to motivational and confidence issues of which Moyes clearly isn't able to sort either.
If you cant motivate your players or get the tactics right then im afraid there will only be one outcome.
I hate the sacking manager culture more than most, but its clear to most that Moyes cannot handle it here, either due to being tactically inept or poor man management. Its dangerous to continue with blind faith based on one mans morals.
[Edited on 26-02-2014 by Steve]
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Steve
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Also I don't buy this transitional period bullshit, how many other big teams changed managers with either no difference or an improvement. I don't see BM, or RM talking about transitions.
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mwg
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It's a little bit like AVB at Chelsea. Players didn't want to play under him. And that ended well 
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JonnyJ
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
Also I don't buy this transitional period bullshit, how many other big teams changed managers with either no difference or an improvement. I don't see BM, or RM talking about transitions.
2 points. They already had world class teams and they werent replacing one of the greatest managers of all time that had run the club for over 2 decades.
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Marc
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BUT, if Rooney still had beef with Moyes and didn't want to play for United anymore I am sure that he would have been offered £300k a week by a team abroad.
This tells me that the players are to blame for these performances and not that they are rebelling against a new manager. I still maintain that he need to start playing Kagawa and Chicarito in a more prominant role.
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Steve
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Alright, whatever the reasons the outcme is still the same, you need a manager that can control the players, and Moyes obviously cant.
Id love Moyes to be a success, Id rather a Birtish manager for Unitedthan some foreign affair, but atm I just cant see it happening
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Robbo
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quote:
Originally posted by Hammer
I must admit though it is funny watching all the absolute weirdos, like Steve, who have cherry picked Man United to support because they won things now squirm whilst they're in a period of transition.
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Ojc
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Van Persie is such a cunt, someone break that mercenary legs the Dutch tulip eating cunt
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Robbo
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Steve
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Tulip eating 
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Ojc
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Moyes gone
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Steve
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shit betting suspended on Moyes going
5/6 on skybet right now
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JonnyJ
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Betting is such a shit way of analysing these things, the smallest amount of money makes bookies shit themselves and think someone has "inside info" so the odds tumble.
I remember when Sheff Weds were appointing a new manager and someone made up a rumour on them going for our manager Worthington, a few people put on some money and put stuff on twitter and betting was suspended on him
Was funny people thinking they were going to cash in
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mwg
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I can't see where it says betting suspended
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Steve
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Its just at some bookies
most places are just slashed odds, eg skybet were 12/1 this morning now 5/6
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JonnyJ
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Someones stuck £40 on Moyes going then.
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Steve
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Time will tell! atm its just speculation.
If its true, no idea who will take charge, an interim til the end of the season though imo, who knows who though.
[Edited on 26-02-2014 by Steve]
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Marc
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More chance of you going to OT Stcheven.
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Steve
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Im seeing them on the 8th, wonder if there will be a new person in charge  doubt it
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Robbo
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they didnt give him a 6 year contract to only tear it up 9 months in because the shit squad is shit...
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kennySRi
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No was is Moyes going, not yet anyway.
Last night was the worse I have ever seen us play. The passing was terrible throughout the 90 minutes. As the commentators said before the game, we take one step forward and two back.
I still think next season we'll be ok and nearly back to normal, this season is completely over and hopefully we won't embarrass ourselves too much more from now to the end of the season.
[Edited on 26-02-2014 by kennySRi]
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mwg
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quote:
Originally posted by Robbo
they didnt give him a 6 year contract to only tear it up 9 months in because the shit squad is shit...
That's the thing it's not a shit squad. Ok it's not good enough to win the title or CL but this squad should be doing much better than it is doing this season when you've got the likes of RVP, Rooney, Januzaj & now Mata in there. The likes of Vidic, Carrick and Evra aren't exactly shit and they are all still regulars. Not saying those players are world beaters and there is no denying the squad does need new players but I think they can do better than they are doing this season.
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Eck
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Matt, it is a shit squad. You have Van Persie, Rooney and Mata. Januzaj is a good prospect who's done well since coming in but he's not the saviour of the club. The injuries are starting to show with Vidic as he's not been the rock of yesteryear. Carrick has been struggling with injuries too! Its little wonder that the rest of the big clubs have sailed on by with some investment.
The summer is where you'll find out if Moyes was the right appointment. He came in and tried to give the players a chance to prove themselves, which you'd expect any manager worth their salt to do, and the squad simply isn't good enough. But you can't change it all in the Jan transfer window!
If you take a look at your current squad, can you honestly see any more than a handful getting in to any of the top 6 teams? Because I can't.
Edit: Also, the aforementioned three best players haven't exactly had much game time in recent months! With two injuries and one barely kicking a ball before his transfer.
[Edited on 26-02-2014 by Eck]
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mwg
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The current players can play better than they have been doing. There is no way that they played at their best last night. They were absolutely wank, could hardly pass the ball between each other. They don't look like a team.
For what ever reason Moyes is not managing to get the best out of them
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