Steve
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Apparently the 'false imprisonment' charge has been dropped because it came down to track security, so it's likely he'll get away with it.
What i don't understand is why he can't be charged with public nuisance like Trenton Oldfield and the Oxbridge race 
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Steve
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I do think the security need to take a massive percentage of the blame
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jr
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
I do think the security need to take a massive percentage of the blame
Why should there need to be any security on a club race day
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quote:
Originally posted by jr
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Originally posted by Steve
I do think the security need to take a massive percentage of the blame
Why should there need to be any security on a club race day
Incase anyone decides it would be funny to drive onto the track
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jr
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No presidence for it, it's a club race day, the fees for racing or trackdays are already excessive, the only way for security to exist are to increase costs
The thing that makes Motorsport and particular tracks like brands so special is how accessible they are, incident like this will now ruin all that for everyone because of one jumped up cunt
Now everything will double in price, you won't be able to access any paddocks, all because some wanker thinks he is a LAD and his parents failed at explaining what right and wrong
There is no security on the m25 slip roads to stop me driving down the wrong side of it, doesn't mean because there is no security therefore I should do it, and when it goes wrong i can then blame the face that all slip roads don't have G4s people at the top of each one
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Mike
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It does baffle me how it's become the case that someone else is always at fault when a prick does something prickish. 'I drove onto a race track during a race because you only live once' must be MSV's fault for failing to employ a man to remind you not to be a dick.
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Ian
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
I do think the security need to take a massive percentage of the blame
Larger than the twat driving?
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Steve
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Probably not, but if there is that much money at stake as what's being quoted some questions need to be asked
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Ian
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Invoice the guy, refund all the participants.
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Jambo
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quote:
Originally posted by Mike
It does baffle me how it's become the case that someone else is always at fault when a prick does something prickish. 'I drove onto a race track during a race because you only live once' must be MSV's fault for failing to employ a man to remind you not to be a dick.
This is a larger problem than localised to this event. Seems to be the norm now, nobody takes responsibility for their actions. It will be brought up shortly that he is either suffering from mental health issues, his dad left him or his uncle raped him tbh.
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tom130691
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Originally Posted by Happystamps View Post
"Yeah, I raped that girl... But she wasn't as strong as me, so she couldn't stop me. So it's her fault for not stopping me"..... Similar sort of argument?
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AndyCorsaSport
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Comparing rape to driving on a track  Jesus Christ.
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Balling
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quote:
Originally posted by jr
There is no security on the m25 slip roads to stop me driving down the wrong side of it, doesn't mean because there is no security therefore I should do it, and when it goes wrong i can then blame the face that all slip roads don't have G4s people at the top of each one
Hitting the nail on the head right there.
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Steve
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There is security on the m25,its called the police and if there were no police I think you'd find plenty of people doing that.
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Corsa_Sport21
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quote:
Originally posted by Balling
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Originally posted by jr
There is no security on the m25 slip roads to stop me driving down the wrong side of it, doesn't mean because there is no security therefore I should do it, and when it goes wrong i can then blame the face that all slip roads don't have G4s people at the top of each one
Hitting the nail on the head right there.
Not really comparable though is it.
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Steve
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There's also a massive difference between a public Road and a private event. It's not realistic to have security covering every section of public Road. It is realistic to expect some security at a localised private event that has a handful of entrances
Any other private event requires security, this is no different.
[Edited on 19-06-2014 by Steve]
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mwg
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Originally posted by AndyCorsaSport
Comparing rape to driving on a track Jesus Christ.
Think some people are getting a little bit excitable about this
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sc0ott
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All most as bad as comparing it to driving down the wrong side of a public road.
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jr
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
There's also a massive difference between a public Road and a private event. It's not realistic to have security covering every section of public Road. It is realistic to expect some security at a localised private event that has a handful of entrances
Any other private event requires security, this is no different.
[Edited on 19-06-2014 by Steve]
once again steven i will repeat
Why should a club motorsport event have to pay for security costs to stop what is blatently wrong
i know not to drive on a live racetrack as i know its wrong, same as i know not to drive down the wrong side of the m25, same as i know not to drive through a shoping centre full of people.
If we have to put people in place to stop people who cant tell the diffrence between what is and isnt acceptbale then no-one will be able to move for the amount of security present in daily life.
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Balling
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
There is security on the m25,its called the police and if there were no police I think you'd find plenty of people doing that.
The police don't stop people from driving down the opposite lane though, do they? They just catch and punish the people who do so, because it's illegal.
I don't see how this is any different. What this guy has done is against the rules and he should be punished accordingly.
Surely something being against the rules should be sufficient to keep people from doing it. Every part of the modern world pretty much relies on everyone acting within a given set of rules. If the ability to apprehend people before they break the rules was actually a necessity, then our society would pretty much collapse.
It's also this sort of thinking that makes this asshole drive into the track in the first place. "If they didn't want me to do it, they should have stopped me."
[Edited on 19-06-2014 by Balling]
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mwg
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I wouldn't of thought it'd be even possible to just drive on to a race track mid race
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gavin18787
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quote:
Originally posted by jr
No presidence for it, it's a club race day, the fees for racing or trackdays are already excessive, the only way for security to exist are to increase costs
The thing that makes Motorsport and particular tracks like brands so special is how accessible they are, incident like this will now ruin all that for everyone because of one jumped up cunt
Now everything will double in price, you won't be able to access any paddocks, all because some wanker thinks he is a LAD and his parents failed at explaining what right and wrong
There is no security on the m25 slip roads to stop me driving down the wrong side of it, doesn't mean because there is no security therefore I should do it, and when it goes wrong i can then blame the face that all slip roads don't have G4s people at the top of each one
I agree. The after effects are going to be rubbish now. Went down there to watch the civic cup the other month. Could go into the pits chat with rob have a look around. Not anymore I bet :-(
Drives supercharged Tec with torque  
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Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by jr
Why should a club motorsport event have to pay for security costs to stop what is blatently wrong
Because unfortunately idiots do, and will always exist.
We shouldn't have to take our shoes off at the airport, but as the world isn't free of morons considerations should be taken
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jr
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Originally posted by mwg
I wouldn't of thought it'd be even possible to just drive on to a race track mid race
It isnt really, just a unfortuatle set of circumstances/luck at the race at the point allowed it to be possible
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