Ditch
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I wasnt boasting vauxhalls Torque figures, i was slating Hondas
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Cybermonkey
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the torque figures would probably be around the 170lb/ft mark AFAIK. Impressive. = piss all over a Civic Type R. I expect if they are having lots of emisions troubles it is most definately the 1.6 Turbo, since the 2.0 Turbo would already be Euro 3 rated and would not have many problems as far as emisions go. so there.
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I'd piss all over a civic
not according to ButholeSRI who seems to think the CTR will beat everything
Not at all, but it will beat all the ones mentioned so far (excl the Cupra - dead match probly)
Wont beat a Focus RS, in a straight line or around a track.
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Robbo
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I still cannot believe people are trying to compare a bloody corsa with the widely-recognised best hot hatch of all time!!!!! (WhatCar/Top gear/Auto Express)
How can u slate a Honda Civic's Torque figures 
DRIVE ONE!!!!!!! It really wud shut most people up!
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I'd piss all over a civic
not according to ButholeSRI who seems to think the CTR will beat everything
Not at all, but it will beat all the ones mentioned so far (excl the Cupra - dead match probly)
Wont beat a Focus RS, in a straight line or around a track.
True true, who mentioned the RS anyway?
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Cybermonkey
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i just did. Its in the same category as a CTR. Why do you continue to talk like the CTR is the best made machine EVER?
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Ditch
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I still cannot believe people are trying to compare a bloody corsa with the widely-recognised best hot hatch of all time!!!!! (WhatCar/Top gear/Auto Express)
How can u slate a Honda Civic's Torque figures
DRIVE ONE!!!!!!! It really wud shut most people up!
The Torque figures are not as piss poor as i first thought actually, but still sure the 1600 turbo will have more as standard.
I wouldnt want to drive one as i wouldnt buy one, id muchrather have a Cupra R
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i just did. Its in the same category as a CTR. Why do you continue to talk like the CTR is the best made machine EVER?
I dont at all!!! A cupra R is faster 2 if we go into it but then your getting into bigger cars... cupra r has 5 doors, a focus is big enough 4 a family whereas the civic is fairly cramped in the back and has no middle seatbelt so is out of the family class (albeit small family)
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Cybermonkey
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I saw a Cupra R in yellow, gaddamn they are nice! the wheels are HUUUUGE!!
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Robbo
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Yes, they r nice but (i'm told) the ride quality and handling do not compare to an RS/CTR/Cooper Works
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Robbo
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R Cupras turbo'd?
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Scott
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end of day u would be buying a vauxhall
buy a better car m8ty , hows the wee one doing the now ?
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Cybermonkey
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who you talkin to?
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Tom
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Cupra r's are 1.8 20v turbo's iirc
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Robbo
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Exactly... Cupra R/Focus RS are both turbo'd, the Civic isn't yet there is barely and bhp diff - that alone shows how good the engine is in a Civic
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who you talkin to?
im talking to mav , not fukin u
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Tom
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But it also shows how tuned it is already... how muich more bhp can be gained b4 needing to charge it in some way?! also remeber the cc is larger
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the current astra GSI is a great car but things to think about are:
1. the astra H comes out early 2004, this will be the 5 door first then the 3 door around the end of 2004. The sporter model at launch will be a 2.0 turbo and is rummored to have 175bhp and will be called sport or sri. The astra H gsi is not even got a date so looking around 2005.
2. As has been said due to the new astra the current Gsi will have had a very limited run really so expect prices to drop for new ones from vauxhall soonish and also be prepared for a more sporting version of the Gsi.....maybe to take on the RS!! Or just to help slow sales on the launch of the astra H. Someone i know has seen two test mules with uprated parts on brand new Gsi's so they are coming. Again this will knock the current Gsi's resale value.
3. The astra H 3 door is not the new coupe at all!! There is a good chance that the coupe will disapear for a different model all together rummors at the moment are its going to be called a "manta" but it will be based on the astra H.
The corsa Gsi has still not been given the offical go ahead as yet and again rummors of been going around about emissions and what the finally BHP will be, as they are having a lot of problems. It doesnt help that the corsa C has had a face lift as well.
If it was me and i was dead set on buying a turbo vauxhall and nothing else i would eithewr hang on to see what they do with the current Gsi with regards price and a limited run of "hot" gsi's towards the end of this year. Or even though i dont like them buy a coupe turbo for £10K as they are a lot of car for the money now.
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the current astra GSI is a great car but things to think about are:
1. the astra H comes out early 2004, this will be the 5 door first then the 3 door around the end of 2004. The sporter model at launch will be a 2.0 turbo and is rummored to have 175bhp and will be called sport or sri. The astra H gsi is not even got a date so looking around 2005.
2. As has been said due to the new astra the current Gsi will have had a very limited run really so expect prices to drop for new ones from vauxhall soonish and also be prepared for a more sporting version of the Gsi.....maybe to take on the RS!! Or just to help slow sales on the launch of the astra H. Someone i know has seen two test mules with uprated parts on brand new Gsi's so they are coming. Again this will knock the current Gsi's resale value.
3. The astra H 3 door is not the new coupe at all!! There is a good chance that the coupe will disapear for a different model all together rummors at the moment are its going to be called a "manta" but it will be based on the astra H.
The corsa Gsi has still not been given the offical go ahead as yet and again rummors of been going around about emissions and what the finally BHP will be, as they are having a lot of problems. It doesnt help that the corsa C has had a face lift as well.
If it was me and i was dead set on buying a turbo vauxhall and nothing else i would eithewr hang on to see what they do with the current Gsi with regards price and a limited run of "hot" gsi's towards the end of this year. Or even though i dont like them buy a coupe turbo for £10K as they are a lot of car for the money now.
If the corsa GSi hasnt been given the go ahead yet, then why was a prototype at PVS?
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MatG
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as you said prototype!!
I am sure it will get the go ahead but for some one looking to buy a car now they certainly aint going to be able to buy one in the next few months.
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Because it was exactly that - a prototype.
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3. The astra H 3 door is not the new coupe at all!! There is a good chance that the coupe will disapear for a different model all together rummors at the moment are its going to be called a "manta" but it will be based on the astra H.
Good points there
As I said, according to WhatCar?, there will be no 'coupe'... the 3dr will act as a coupe style replacement
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as you said prototype!!
I am sure it will get the go ahead but for some one looking to buy a car now they certainly aint going to be able to buy one in the next few months.
Yeah sure, but i am selling my Sport soon and emmigrating to Australia. I would love to know if its getting released there as a Holden Barina. That would be awesome.
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Robbo
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If ur going to aussie get a skyline!!!
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MatG
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they dont even have the astra Gsi in aus, and have only just got the astra coupe turbo!! so i doubt it mate sorry
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