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the_legend_of_yrag
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12th Mar 04 at 14:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

For fuck sake:

Chelsea english players:
Bridge
Cole
Lampard
Terry
Johnson

Arsenal English players
Keown
Campbell
Stack
Taylor
Cole
Parlour
Bentley

Liverpool english players:
Owen
Heskey
Gerrard
Kirkland
Carragher
Murphey


There all 3 teams have just as many english players as each other, with a few from the rest of britain too, with the others being foreign/europeon, it's the same with all the big clubs accross europe.

You cannot slate another team for not having enough english players in the squad because all the sides are basically the same.

You are all arguing over nothing and getting nowhere!!
keninski
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12th Mar 04 at 14:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

hmmm good one
i think hes englands no.1 striker in regards no english player can hold the ball up as good as he does and link play up
i think defoe should be given a chance soon
Darren M
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i fcuking love talking football.... its gets me angry and makes me laugh

keninski.... i have a challenge for you.... give me your starting eleven using both arsenal and liverpool sides. regardless of injuries/loans etc....

Darren M
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quote:
Originally posted by Mad Moe
Shearer is still England's No.1 Striker

Discuss.



i hate him..... but would still play him for england
Mad Moe
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quote:
Originally posted by keninski
hmmm good one
i think hes englands no.1 striker in regards no english player can hold the ball up as good as he does and link play up
i think defoe should be given a chance soon


Would have to agree with you there Defoe is starting to look the best bet out of the current crop of english strikers
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And btw in the list i have used for the three teams, all have featured in the first team on numerous occasions during the season, which is all that matters players can go from the reserves into the first team and back to the reserves they are squad players therefore yes they do count!
keninski
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quote:
Originally posted by Darren M
i fcuking love talking football.... its gets me angry and makes me laugh

keninski.... i have a challenge for you.... give me your starting eleven using both arsenal and liverpool sides. regardless of injuries/loans etc....




good one right then

1. kirkland
2. carragher
3. cambell
4. toure
5. cole
6. pires
7.lungberg
8. Viera
9. owen
10. henry
11. gerrard

about right u reckon??

[Edited on 12-03-2004 by keninski]
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tbf id have pennent in there ahead of lungberg anyday, pitty mr wenger is gunna get rid
Mad Moe
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What ever happened to Riise used to like him and he hasn't played in ages
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pennent is good but dont think in lunbergs goal getting quality
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quote:
Originally posted by Mad Moe
What ever happened to Riise used to like him and he hasn't played in ages


just come back from injury but hes not as steady as carragher so thats the main reason hes out of the side imo
Darren M
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12th Mar 04 at 14:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i would go witth.....

1, KIRKLAND

2, COLE
3, HYYPIA
4, CAMPBELL
5, CARRAGHER

6, PIRES
7, LJUNGBERG
8, VIERA
9, GERRARD

10, OWEN
11, HENRY

Subs :

Taylor
Toure
Kewel
Reyes

Robbo
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quote:
Originally posted by the_legend_of_yrag
tbf id have pennent in there ahead of lungberg anyday, pitty mr wenger is gunna get rid
Nah, I reckon he may use Ljungberg as an attacker or central midfielder an pennant on the right... i will be very very if he sells Pennant
Darren M
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very close except one player in central defence

i was 100% you would choose hyypia
keninski
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have to disagree with subs as i'd have dudek instead of taylor
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didnt choose hyypia just cos i think toure has been so good this year
although i suppose hypia is tried and tested over several seasons
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1. Lehmann
2. Lauren
3. Campbelll
4. Toure
5. Cole
6. Ljungberg
7. Vieira
8. Gerrard
9. Pires
10. Owen
11. Henry

Only Gerrard and Owen IMO are good enough to break into the Arsenal first team
Darren M
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quote:
Originally posted by Robbo
quote:
Originally posted by the_legend_of_yrag
tbf id have pennent in there ahead of lungberg anyday, pitty mr wenger is gunna get rid
Nah, I reckon he may use Ljungberg as an attacker or central midfielder an pennant on the right... i will be very very if he sells Pennant


i dont think he will sell... look at the players that are coming to the end of their career bergkamp/parlour may be one more season in themas subs.... hence why i think he will keep pennant may be even loan him out again for half or whole season
keninski
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quote:
Originally posted by Robbo
quote:
Originally posted by the_legend_of_yrag
tbf id have pennent in there ahead of lungberg anyday, pitty mr wenger is gunna get rid
Nah, I reckon he may use Ljungberg as an attacker or central midfielder an pennant on the right... i will be very very if he sells Pennant


pennant is almost 100% certain to leave arsenal imo
keninski
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quote:
Originally posted by Robbo
1. Lehmann
2. Lauren
3. Campbelll
4. Toure
5. Cole
6. Ljungberg
7. Vieira
8. Gerrard
9. Pires
10. Owen
11. Henry

Only Gerrard and Owen IMO are good enough to break into the Arsenal first team


think thats abit harsh on kirkland. injury free hes a top quality goalkeeper.
still think carragher is alot more steady than lauren
but everybody has there own opinion
Darren M
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quote:
Originally posted by keninski
didnt choose hyypia just cos i think toure has been so good this year
although i suppose hypia is tried and tested over several seasons


that is the only position we can really argue about.... either toure or hyypia pretty much the same standard i would say

Rob - you would have lauren over carragher
keninski
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quote:
Originally posted by Darren M
quote:
Originally posted by keninski
didnt choose hyypia just cos i think toure has been so good this year
although i suppose hypia is tried and tested over several seasons


that is the only position we can really argue about.... either toure or hyypia pretty much the same standard i would say

Rob - you would have lauren over carragher


yeah pretty much same team
you could argue all day between toure and hyypia. as you say pretty much the same standard of player
Robbo
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quote:
Originally posted by Darren M
quote:
Originally posted by Robbo
quote:
Originally posted by the_legend_of_yrag
tbf id have pennent in there ahead of lungberg anyday, pitty mr wenger is gunna get rid
Nah, I reckon he may use Ljungberg as an attacker or central midfielder an pennant on the right... i will be very very if he sells Pennant


i dont think he will sell... look at the players that are coming to the end of their career bergkamp/parlour may be one more season in themas subs.... hence why i think he will keep pennant may be even loan him out again for half or whole season
Fingers crossed...

I would (if I were Wenger) let Parlour/Keown/Kanu/Wiltord/Gilberto go and bring in Pennant/Reyes/Mexes (Auxerre)/Aliadiere (looks like an outstanding talent)/Bentley/Reyes/Senderos/Clichy

I would however loan pennant to a team like Spurs (not spurs tho) until Xmas and loan bentley to a team like Leeds for a season to get experience... same with Cesc/Hoyte/Thomas/Garry



[Edited on 12-03-2004 by Robbo]
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12th Mar 04 at 15:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Wenger was quoted in the papers saying he was prepared to listen to offers for Pennant.
keninski
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aliadiere looks quality for the future
i think mr wenger must go to sprinting events and then ask them if then can kick a ball cos all his buys have been so fast lol

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