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Cybermonkey
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Dbilascorsa
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quote:
Originally posted by miles
I am very sceptical of rolling road figures, and do not believe 160bhp is achievable with your spec, nothing against you or your car, but I dont think 160bhp is possible with this spec on any engine, but thats me. We're talking compensated flywheel figures, which are never going to be that accurate anyway.


Why are you sceptical of rr figures
I had my car RR tested in 3 different RR's (2 MAHA with different spec and a Bosch) all 3 gave similar results for my car.

Which has btw around 160hp (X16XE with Dbilas TB's, 262 Dbilas cams, Dbilas Flowmaster (airinduction system) with K&N panel, Dbilas RR chip, FSE pbv, Supersprint manifold and Laser 2,5" exhaust, decat) with the revlimiter on 7950rpm.

And have seen other 1.6 16v Corsa reach these values......

And Schaap Axel doesnot have a Sebring, it is a 2,5" Mantzel system (decat).

BTW Schaap why didnot you thank the photographer of the Mantzel pics

Servaas

[Edited on 05-07-2005 by Dbilascorsa]

[Edited on 05-07-2005 by Dbilascorsa]
5chaap2k
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hey another dutchie here

relax mr-fotographer cybermonkey isn't flaming but just sceptical.. nothing wrong with that, and he corrected me on the fact that BHP and PS are not 1 on 1 (read above)

good to see you finally found out how to register here
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in case your to lazy to read the entire thread:

http://locost7.info/converter.php
Cybermonkey
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Actually i think you will find Miles was flaming in the previous page not me haha
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quote:
Originally posted by 5chaap2k
in case your to lazy to read the entire thread:

http://locost7.info/converter.php



just used this to convert my top speed:

220 KM/H wich is 136.70 MPH

quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
Actually i think you will find Miles was flaming in the previous page not me haha


heheh indeed.. used the wrong name (again) this thread is getting crowded...

P.S.: Cant dutchies get a discount on going PREM ?

[Edited on 05-07-2005 by 5chaap2k]
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no pay the £12.50 like the rest of us
Dbilascorsa
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Some pics of my wheels:
Axel phoning next to it:



My enginebay:



Full car:



Servaas
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ey! create your own project thread

dirty hyjacker!

miles
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I believe your 160bhp figure at nearly 8,000rpm! Getting that power at 6800rpm I dont believe.

Why dont you go the throttle body/independant mangement route? Or does everything need to be tuv approved?

Isn't 2.5" exhaust bore excessive?

Have either of you done any 1/4 mile runs?
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Miles - how much did you pay for the powerbx in the end?
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Old pic of power (before pbv and chipping):

http://home.wanadoo.nl/opelcorsa/pics/meting/fgc-legenda.jpg

Another okd pic of power (after chipping before pbv):



And I used the original sensors and ecu because the car is used daily in Rotterdam Citycentre (lot of traffic lights) and I even go to the wintersport with it. And I donot want to load a new program every day.

The bore of the exhaust isnot to large.

Servaas

[Edited on 06-07-2005 by Dbilascorsa]
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1/4 mile sprints yes I did.

16,354 with lots a wheelspin in 1st and 2nd.

Hope to get a better time next friday.

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quote:
Originally posted by 5chaap2k
ey! create your own project thread

dirty hyjacker!



i repeat
AK
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i managed a 16.2 in my 115bhp 1.4 16v



jr is in the 15's with his 1.4 on mantzel
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it was a rainy day when he put down that time!

i only have a 1/8 mile result before the mantzel remap

wich is 10,5 sec on a dry day. but that was my 1st time so need to do some more practice
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam Kindness
Miles - how much did you pay for the powerbx in the end?


£90 I think. Shame I let Pete Knivet (I think) and his old company charge me £150 for a few gaskets and pipes.
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I did a 14.065 @101.92mph.
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Just got me a decent blackbox because the current one sounds like shit atm:







preparing for a nordschleife run next weekend (Nurburg germany)
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nice choice
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it's even louder now...

the sound is better but much louder, even tried putting back the cat-converter.. pointless..
need to build some kind of DB killer for it..
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1/4 mile in 15,4sec
1/8 mile in 10,0 sec
Andy
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Interesting thread this. I had a very similar specced X16XE before I moved to throttle bodies and engine management. I had a RR figure of 154bhp at 7100rpm running Schrick 264 cams. However, the amount and spread of torque was not quite as I'd hoped - it didn't feel quite as I imagined it might. That al changed when I switched to TBs and engine management. Power jumped to 180bhp, but more importantly, the torque spread was almost linear from 2500-6000rpm.

As for exhausts, I think you would have a quicker more driveable car and better mid torque if you reduced the bore to 2.25 or even 2.0 inches. Swindon racing only ever used to use a 1.75inch bore on their 210bhp Group A rally engines!
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intresting andy about the exhasut system
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yes mantzel also told me that a larger exhaust system would degrade the bhp

has something to do with the lost of pressure on the exhaust

when i put back the catalystic converter the car drives better down-rev but on higher revs i feel a little lose in power

and im thinking about putting on jenveys have to figure out the costs..

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