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Paul_J
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25th Jul 05 at 22:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

In a rear wheel drive car booting it off the line will cause the weight to shift to the rear and hopefully help the traction... in a FWD booting it off the line will reduce traction!
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quote:
Originally posted by Rus
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i personally think the vuaxhall looks tacky and made without thought, just machines. the golf just looks and speaks quility. (i'm sure the golf is made by machines too)


But this is what I mean! this is the reason most mags etc say they'd go for the golf! Not the fact the golf is quicker / handles better!

The VXR is quicker / better handling / quicker round a track than a Golf GTi end of. (Note not saying the Golf is bad at all)


yeh i totally agree, but at the end of the day. you want a good quility car. that feels £20k - £22k's worth not something that doesn't.


now you are just being pedantic, the build quality in the Vauxhall will no doubt be top stuff, and has been for the last 5 years with new Vauxhalls/Opels/Holdens. And i dont think its more than 20k is it?
and Robbo,

only jokin mate but seriously, you dont need to keep hammering home how crap the Astra was, because it quite obviously wasnt, and if Autocar (a fully respected mag) can call it the new GTi king, then it cant be all that bad surely?? im waiting on HSV to announce they will be doing a HSV Astra
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dont know about anyone else, but i think this is absolutely sex, and whoops all of them in looks department. well done Vaux/Opel





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Waaaaaaaaaaa

Not calling it crap just not as good as some people think

Once I have placed my order i shall take a test drive of the VXR and report back
mwg
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26th Jul 05 at 12:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

VXR looks sexual
Robbo
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To be fair the pics cm posted do look lovely but it didt end up like that :S
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To be fair the pics cm posted do look lovely but it didt end up like that :S


Its not far off at all, still looks great IMO
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I know bust some of the points i haet (like the fishface rear) look much better in there, also the big v is off putting IMO
Ditch
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quote:
Originally posted by Robbo
Waaaaaaaaaaa

Not calling it crap just not as good as some people think

Once I have placed my order i shall take a test drive of the VXR and report back


its a 240bhp FWD car... it was never going to handle brilliantly.

however, its 0.5 of a second behind the Megane... which everyone says was superb on track


Would like to see one up against a Fiat coupe 20v turbo round a track, people always say how refined and composed they are... I bet the VXR would be a match.
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I know bust some of the points i haet (like the fishface rear) look much better in there, also the big v is off putting IMO


v grill is FUCKING GHEY
Robbo
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Spunky is correct

What bhp is a FIat Coupe?
jr
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the audi RS3 will come out and fuck over all of these, so stop arguing

also the golf GTI PD will be comming out soon, 170bhp and more torque than a space shuttle
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quote:
Originally posted by Robbo
Spunky is correct

What bhp is a FIat Coupe?

20v is about 220 i think

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the audi RS3 will come out and fuck over all of these, so stop arguing

also the golf GTI PD will be comming out soon, 170bhp and more torque than a space shuttle


i cant wait for that any pics? going to be just over 300bhp i heard?
Adam_B
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26th Jul 05 at 20:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I think the Astra VXR looks hideous, much prefer the regular sport hatch.
jr
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Originally posted by Robbo
Spunky is correct

What bhp is a FIat Coupe?

20v is about 220 i think

quote:
Originally posted by jr
the audi RS3 will come out and fuck over all of these, so stop arguing

also the golf GTI PD will be comming out soon, 170bhp and more torque than a space shuttle


i cant wait for that any pics? going to be just over 300bhp i heard?


4wd 400bhp, apprentley
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I was Speaking to Stu Harris on VX220.org yesterday....

here's what he said:-

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the fact that journalists from Autocar , EVO etc have all lapped the nurburinging in sub 9 mins with the same car and not once mentioned the issue interested us.

We have concluded that this particular Stig can't drive fwd , and what he did to the Golf was ridiculous.

The car Clarkson drove had the wrong (std) front uprights and incorrect dampers. We pointed this out but they wanted it anyway because of the schedule.....

HTH

Stu


development work has already started on aftermarket options...so expect to see nearer 300bhp soon
Robbo
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good lord are they trying to kill people
Jules S
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Only if you dont have the skills to handle a tuned VXR

Thorney is doing the development

>clicky<
Robbo
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nice,hows the vx dude?
Jules S
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Mine?

its coming along nicely engine upgrade to 170bhp before major expenditure

got the colour scheme right now




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quote:
Originally posted by benny_h
Mine?

its coming along nicely engine upgrade to 170bhp before major expenditure

got the colour scheme right now






Very nice

170BHP
Robbo
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Lookin jus like the turbo
Jules S
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Dont know why my original post 'x' ed

yeah, got a great deal on the VXT aero pack I couldnt turn down

TB's will now get me approx 225 bhp

SC are now (reasonably) running at 230bhp

decisions decisions decisions
Robbo
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u forgot to put the g on the end of jpg

Fook me 230bhp in that
Jules S
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*ahem*

*cough*

*cough*

*cough*

Thorney is nearing 370 bhp

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