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Jambo
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25th May 06 at 10:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Marc
You had a play in yours yet Jambo? Or is the transfer box laughing at you?


I tried in the ice but was a tad scared to push it that hard.

I havent managed to loose grip tho I need some bigger balls
P_young
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floor it up 2 a roundabout, keep the power on whilst turning but let the power of just for just a second the back on the power. Thats how i do it.
Edd
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quote:
Originally posted by John
Edd go back to offday and stop trying to cause trouble.
Have you ever made a post that actualy contributes to the thread.



hmmm causing trouble


i disagree with you grow up


and yes my 1st post added to the thread a fwd car does not drift
Ditch
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Originally posted by CorsAsh
Example coming up to a right hander: brake, load the weight to the front wheels, flick left then right, back end should be light and step out... wind on opposite lock and with enough momentum you'll carry an oversteer state through the corner. You can keep it neat with throttle and steering adjustments, but actually powering the slide through the corner is RWD territory.

Think to sum up, you can drift a FWD car through a corner if you set it up correctly on the way in but you're pretty much a passenger, only in a RWD can you vary the degree of the slide for instance.



very well put!
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oh man, are we going ot get millions of posts tomorrow "Tried to "DRIFT" my corsa and look what happened...."

enter stage left, pic of smashed up corsa
Jambo
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The clue is in its name:

"power-slide"

You are "sliding" the rear wheels
But the power is going to the front wheels

Its wrong, as ash said you would just be a passenger, only able to control it to a degree, but not via using the throttle or power

[Edited on 25-05-2006 by Jambo]
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This is what happens when you attempt a FWD drift with absolutely no experience of drifting. I wasnt actually trying to drift but the over correcting was where it all went wrong

John
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Edd you are wrong so no you did not contribute.
Jambo, who is talking about power slides?
The question is about drifting.
Marc
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quote:
Originally posted by P_young
floor it up 2 a roundabout, keep the power on whilst turning but let the power of just for just a second the back on the power. Thats how i do it.


I was just going to say the same thing!

Try that Jambo! Or better still, a big empty car park!
Jambo
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quote:
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Edd you are wrong so no you did not contribute.
Jambo, who is talking about power slides?
The question is about drifting.


WTF do you think "drifiting" is you tool
John
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When you have originally started the slide with the handbrake you can control the drift to a degree with throttle and power.
I have briefly tried it myself and been in more than one car that its been done in.
Jambo
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Originally posted by Marc

Try that Jambo! Or better still, a big empty car park!




So power on, lift off for a sec, power on and then dont shit yourslef correct it and carry on with a slightly larger penis?
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quote:
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Edd you are wrong so no you did not contribute.
Jambo, who is talking about power slides?
The question is about drifting.




two different opinions then eh


i still stand by my statement though



fwd can be put into a skid and controlled but they cannot drift
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Name calling now because you are wrong.
WTF do you think drifting is if you are saying it can't be done in fwd?
It's not me who started trying to say they were different.
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Its not my opinion.
If it was only an opinion I woudln't know I was right.
What you all have is an opinion which happens to be wrong.
There are people who drift fwd cars so you can drift them.
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quote:
Originally posted by CorsAsh
Example coming up to a right hander: brake, load the weight to the front wheels, flick left then right, back end should be light and step out... wind on opposite lock and with enough momentum you'll carry an oversteer state through the corner. You can keep it neat with throttle and steering adjustments, but actually powering the slide through the corner is RWD territory.

Think to sum up, you can drift a FWD car through a corner if you set it up correctly on the way in but you're pretty much a passenger, only in a RWD can you vary the degree of the slide for instance.


i agree
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Originally posted by Jambo
So power on, lift off for a sec, power on and then dont shit yourslef correct it and carry on with a slightly larger penis?


I rolled in to a social club car park near my mates house, I just stuck my foot down and turned the wheel. I think people were inside
Jambo
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im slightly worried of trying this as i know things in the 4x4 department at vauxhall have if abused been a tad "fragile"


Gotta try it once tho , im getting rid of these tyres this month too
J1M
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I gues it comes down to what people determine as "drifting"
With Broster as my witness; I was approaching a roundabout at some speed in my Nova, I was heading straight across the roundabout, so I turned left to negotiate the island, then right whilst keeping my foot firmly down on the accelerator. The car began to understeer so I turned in a bit more, the back end then very gradually stepped out, I applied opposite lock so was pointing in one direction with the wheels pointing in the opposite direction and kept on the power, the back end came back in line and I continued in a forward direction with all wheels pointing in the same direction. For a split second I encountered oversteer.
It was not caused by lifting off then putting the power down, which is refered to as lift-off oversteer.
I'm not going to say "look I was drifting" because I believe drifting is something that can be controlled for a relatively long duration of time with the driver being able to determine exactly how much of an angle the car is at in relation to the corner.

Jim

[Edited on 25-05-2006 by J1M]
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Might aswell do a few drag days too then
Marc
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To me Jim you were controlling a FWD car.
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quote:
Originally posted by Marc
To me Jim you were controlling a FWD car.



to me he was making me produce brown smelly babies
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Jambo yours will turni into a fwd half way through the corner 4wd drifts are meant to be quite difficult anyway.

Ash - good explainantion btw
Jambo
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Tom yes the scandanavian flick manoveor (SP) is needed apparently
J1M
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quote:
Originally posted by Marc
To me Jim you were controlling a FWD car.

I agree, but you appreciate that the car reacted in a manner similar to that of RWD/4WD cars when "drifting" i.e. the car required the driver to apply opposite lock in order to keep the car pointing in the correct direction?

Jim

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