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Cybermonkey

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8th Aug 06 at 08:28

because they are totally different to drive Steve, the Saxo makes all its torque deep down low, with a big chunk right from idle, whereas the Corsa has it midrange at 4kRPM. it has a 15lb/ft torque advantage over the Saxo, but with a 50kg weight difference. where the Saxo starts to lean out further up the rev range, the Corsa is at its strongest between 3 and 5k RPM. can we please please stop arguing about this. yes the VTR is a nippy little car which handles superbly from standard, but it IS slower in a straight line against a 1.6 Corsa regardless of standing or rolling start.

Reedy

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8th Aug 06 at 09:43

going from experience, I used to own a corsa ( not a fast one but still ) the pug is far better for the 0-60's thats whats why i got one, you will probably find that top speeds are slower to achieve but with the range to 0-60 its fucking imense.

[Edited on 08-08-2006 by Reedy]

Reedy

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8th Aug 06 at 09:45

quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey
because they are totally different to drive Steve, the Saxo makes all its torque deep down low, with a big chunk right from idle, whereas the Corsa has it midrange at 4kRPM. it has a 15lb/ft torque advantage over the Saxo, but with a 50kg weight difference. where the Saxo starts to lean out further up the rev range, the Corsa is at its strongest between 3 and 5k RPM. can we please please stop arguing about this. yes the VTR is a nippy little car which handles superbly from standard, but it IS slower in a straight line against a 1.6 Corsa regardless of standing or rolling start.

I would say the 1.6 would after some time, but if it was a 0-60 it would be a close call.

Corsa_Carl

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8th Aug 06 at 09:51

cant believe this thread is still going

as soon as anyone mentions a saxo on this site thats it . . . 90 people are in one thread pressing f5 waiting for the next reply lol

Ojc

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8th Aug 06 at 10:05

Off the line a 100bhp VTR and a 106bhp Corsa Sport are near on the same, I would say that the VTR would get off the line quicker due to the nature of the 8v engine, once away and the speeds increase and the rev range starts to be higher and the 8v looses its advantage the 16v Corsa engine DOES overtake and passes.

Jambo

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8th Aug 06 at 10:24

3CorsaMeal

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8th Aug 06 at 10:29

its about as fun as comparing a fork and a spoon.

Ojc

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8th Aug 06 at 10:34

I love it, its the most intresting thing on here at the moment anyway.

3CorsaMeal

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8th Aug 06 at 10:35

i think the AP rally corsa should be rebuilt

Corsa_Carl

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8th Aug 06 at 10:39

quote:
Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
i think the AP rally corsa should be rebuilt

Carl

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8th Aug 06 at 11:24

As said previously, even if the 1.6 corsa is slightly faster than the facelift vtr, once it gets to corners it's set in stone which would be last.
Also said previously corners are everywhere these days.

mark_d

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8th Aug 06 at 12:49

no point argueing because Fad summed it all up and IMO is 100% correct

Andyrs1800

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8th Aug 06 at 13:04

VTEC
Found in:
1997-2000 Civic Type-R
Displacement: 1595 cm3
Compression: 10.8:1
Power: 184 hp (137 kW) @ 8200 rpm & 118 ft·lbf (160 N·m) @ 7500 rpm
Transmission: S4C

God they have less torque than i thought, still a good car...

Steve

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8th Aug 06 at 13:12

quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
I love it, its the most intresting thing on here at the moment anyway.

3CorsaMeal

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8th Aug 06 at 13:13

so what is the fastest 1.6 out there?

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8th Aug 06 at 13:15

i hated saxo's and thought they were shite, borrowed fads bros one

and it turned out to be one of the most fun adn entertaining standard cars ive driven, handling was

and IMO faster than any standard 1.6 16v ive driven

and it would rape a 1.4 16v sideways

that is all

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8th Aug 06 at 13:17

quote:
Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
so what is the fastest 1.6 out there?

Meriva VXR

colt Cyborg

ermmmm

3CorsaMeal

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8th Aug 06 at 13:18

quote:
Originally posted by jr
i hated saxo's and thought they were shite, borrowed fads bros one

and it turned out to be one of the most fun adn entertaining standard cars ive driven, handling was and IMO faster than any standard 1.6 16v ive driven

and it would rape a 1.4 16v sideways

that is all

i've always assumed they handled better than corsas, standard form etc

you can see from the stance of the two cars, corsa is deffo more of a shopping/town car than a hot hatch.

dunno how i ended up with one

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8th Aug 06 at 13:19

neither am i, but im glad i got mine though

3CorsaMeal

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8th Aug 06 at 13:21

yeah, mine done me well, not set any land speed records tho

cheap and cheerful, am very glad i've never chucked lots of money into it

stubbsy05

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8th Aug 06 at 13:33

My old Civic 1.6 VTI VTEC would piss all over a Saxo VTR. And probably shit on it too

Gaz

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8th Aug 06 at 19:03

Why are people still comparing it to the 1.4?

i am still sticking to the 1.6 corsa will be the 8V saxo, But the VTs bum's the 1.6 at stock spec...

Fad

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8th Aug 06 at 19:07

quote:
Originally posted by Gaz

i am still sticking to the 1.6 corsa will be the 8V saxo, But the VTs bum's the 1.6 at stock spec...

Are you atually incapable of reading what has been posted up there?

bubble

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8th Aug 06 at 19:08

my mates vtr kept up with that discovery shuttle launch thing. its got 50bhp of nos

Gaz

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8th Aug 06 at 19:09

quote:
Originally posted by Fad

quote:
Originally posted by Gaz

i am still sticking to the 1.6 corsa will be the 8V saxo, But the VTs bum's the 1.6 at stock spec...

Are you atually incapable of reading what has been posted up there?

Was going off what JR had said...

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