Steve X16XE
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I don't rate mine. Goes to the floor everytime i press it. Need some goodridge hoses.
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Steve
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btw iv owned both a C16XE corsa and two 106gtis, i can tell you from experience there is a lot of difference between them
sounds like your mate owned a VTR tbh 
[Edited on 15-05-2007 by Steve]
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Dean_W
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Originally posted by VXR
Corsa brakes good as standard????
Eh? Uh? You sure?
I was thinking this myself. My standard brakes were shoot. My mrs has a 206, that has excellent brakes. My ma's toyota, that has good brakes. Mine were just plain shocking.
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Dave A
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Originally posted by Steve X16XE
What are your views Mr Dave?
my views (based on driving and working on these hothatches every day) are as follows:
1. a mildly tuned 106 gti / Vts is a good match up to 100 mph for 2.0 corsa and will easily outhandle it
2. 2.0 corsas are great fun when built right
3. a fully stripped 1.6 16v corsa isnt a match for a standard gti/vts speed wise to 80 mph but will keep with it. again will fall short on the handling
4. a fully stripped 1.6 16v corsa with 180 bhp and £1000+ spent on the handling setup and £800+ worth of brakes will trounce them all and then wont piss oil on the floor, develop a missfire and break a gearbox.
[Edited on 15-05-2007 by Dave A]
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Steve
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they arent amazing but they bite harder then vts's or 106gti's
think peugeot or citroen purposely made them a bit soft as sensitive brakes on a corner in the wet in a 106gti or vts would be dangerous in inexperienced hands
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Dean_W
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Originally posted by Steve
106gti or vts would be dangerous in inexperienced hands
How many inexperienced drivers can afford the insurance on one of these. Don't talk poop.
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Steve X16XE
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Originally posted by Steve
sounds like your mate owned a VTR tbh
Deffo was a VTS. I even saw the badge 
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Steve X16XE
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Originally posted by Dave A
4. a fully stripped 1.6 16v corsa with 180 bhp and £1000+ spent on the handling setup and £800+ worth of brakes will trounce them all and then wont piss oil on the floor, develop a missfire and break a gearbox.
Yours?
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Steve
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Originally posted by Dean_W
quote:
Originally posted by Steve
106gti or vts would be dangerous in inexperienced hands
How many inexperienced drivers can afford the insurance on one of these. Don't talk poop.
i see a lot of 19-21 owners, these arent really that experienced imo, and i see a lot of crashed ones also through people not driving them very well in the wet.
the rear torsion bar in the wet is lethal
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Steve X16XE
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Just had this...........
20 bhp is f-all. how come a 206 (gti 180) is slower than both a vts (c2 and saxo) if bhp has anything to do with it? its all about how the power is put on the road and the corsa is a lot faster through the gears. Surely bhp is not the only important factor in deciding the overall speed of a car. My car has a claimed 126 bhp but is way slower than both.
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VegasPhil
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Originally posted by Dave A
quote:
Originally posted by Steve X16XE
What are your views Mr Dave?
4. a fully stripped 1.6 16v corsa with 180 bhp and £1000+ spent on the handling setup and £800+ worth of brakes will trounce them all and then wont piss oil on the floor, develop a missfire and break a gearbox.
[Edited on 15-05-2007 by Dave A]
Ahhhhh yes. 
Corsa 2.0 16v Vegas - Sold
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Dave A
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sorry phil, forgot
it wont throw out the driveshafts and break a cv joint a week either
[Edited on 15-05-2007 by Dave A]
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Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve X16XE
Just had this...........
20 bhp is f-all. how come a 206 (gti 180) is slower than both a vts (c2 and saxo) if bhp has anything to do with it? its all about how the power is put on the road and the corsa is a lot faster through the gears. Surely bhp is not the only important factor in deciding the overall speed of a car. My car has a claimed 126 bhp but is way slower than both.
the guy is clearly and idiot, his car has 126 bhp but will be heavier thats why its slower, same goes for the 206gti.
cant believe hes trying to argue with me that ...
a) iv owned both cars
b) that a corsa sport is faster than a vts/106 gti
laughable tbh
[Edited on 15-05-2007 by Steve]
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Dave A
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve X16XE
Just had this...........
20 bhp is f-all. how come a 206 (gti 180) is slower than both a vts (c2 and saxo) if bhp has anything to do with it? its all about how the power is put on the road and the corsa is a lot faster through the gears. Surely bhp is not the only important factor in deciding the overall speed of a car. My car has a claimed 126 bhp but is way slower than both.
exactly steve. well pointed out. my car is a hell of a lot quicker to 100mph now since fitting a higher final drive. a lot of how a car drives on the road is in the overall package i.e gearing, weight, power, handling etc...
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Steve
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right so are you now saying Dave that a corsa sport is faster than a 106gti?
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Dave A
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Originally posted by Steve
right so are you now saying Dave that a corsa sport is faster than a 106gti?
no chance not in standard form
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Steve X16XE
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Well, like my mate said, mine must be a good example. I have had a pop at a VTS and kept up. Might have been down to the driver tho.
Never had a go at a GTI tho. I think they are meant to be a little better.
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Steve
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thanks
i know aswell as the next person its not all about bhp, buts its simple maths to figure how the 106gti is faster, and bhp is just one of the factors.
it also pulls a lot harder at the top of the rev range
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Steve
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Originally posted by Steve X16XE
Well, like my mate said, mine must be a good example. I have had a pop at a VTS and kept up. Might have been down to the driver tho.
Never had a go at a GTI tho. I think they are meant to be a little better.
well my mates standard VTS got a 15.0 up the strip, my old one got 15.3's on a different day, but got that on two runs.
now take your corsa up the strip, if it beats those times il happily admit its faster, but it wont 
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Steve X16XE
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Mine now with the 4-1 pulls hard to it limit.
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Steve
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take it up the strip, il be surprised if it gets below 16's tbh
theres a lot of factors with racing stuff on the road, just because you keep up with something doesnt mean its faster or even as fast.
if you floored your car even 1 second before he did thats his advantage almost gone for a start
[Edited on 15-05-2007 by Steve]
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Steve X16XE
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I'd love to do the 1/4 at PVS but everyone is telling me that i'll be waiting for hours for a run. Which is a big shame coz i would love to know.
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cunningham
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a set oh turbo brakes and calipers and decent fixed rate suspesion like bilsteina dn bolybushes and iknow for a fact my car handles well
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Steve
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best example i can show you is when sooty bought his 106gti down, same mods as mine, we both hgot 15.3 and 15.4 respectivly up the strip.
Now when we raced on the road, on a dual track i floored mine mustve been milliseconds after he did and he could come past me quite easily and pull away, but if we both made sure we floored it at the same time it would be even.
unless your side by side with a timed start youl never know if your car is as fast as somethinig
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Steve X16XE
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
take it up the strip, il be surprised if it gets below 16's tbh
theres a lot of factors with racing stuff on the road, just because you keep up with something doesnt mean its faster or even as fast.
if you floored your car even 1 second before he did thats his advantage almost gone for a start
[Edited on 15-05-2007 by Steve]
I came off a roundabout (in a 60 area and i was l8) and cought him up. Was about to overtake then he booted it. I then went into 2nd and proceeded to play and keep up.
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