DaveyLC
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X18XE1, Z18XE, Z16XE, X14XE all have the block  Obviously the bore sizes are different..
the 1.8's have a long stroke crank and a superior head design..
The 1.8's also dont have the stupid inlet and and aux air injection.. Also the EGR assembly is a seperate part on the side of the block.
The 1.8's also have twin-loom solid state management (ECU on block) and bigger oil pumps.
[Edited on 26-03-2009 by DaveyLC]
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sand-eel
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does that mean the z18xe head/ oil pump could fit a x16xe?
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Daveskater
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I'd like mine done mate  Not yet obviously, insurance will bend me over with 1NCB 
How much for 12v poverty spec (Envoy)? No air con, no pas, 1/4 of the engine missing (makes it easier to lift   ), didn't even have rev counter clocks until I put them in.
I'm guessing I could do with a different gearbox though, seeing as it's an F10.
[Edited on 26-03-2009 by Daveskater]
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DaveyLC
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Not as easy as the 8v as the loom is different.. but will be around the £425-450 mark.
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Originally posted by sand-eel
does that mean the z18xe head/ oil pump could fit a x16xe?
Yep.. but you'd need to use the sump + pickup.
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Daveskater
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Different loom ftl 
I'd still rather one over an XE though which would be more hassle
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gazza808
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i was told you couldnt fit z18xe/x18xe1 head to the x16xe/x14xe as the block/head were both a different design. and the decks were much different?
dunno how true this is?
[Edited on 26-03-2009 by gazza808]
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DaveyLC
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X18XE is different.. AFAIK X18XE1 is a small block and they look the same to me?
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gazza808
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x18xe1 head gasket
x16xe head gasket
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gazza808
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water/oil ways are apprently different
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DaveyLC
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1.8 block:
We will find out when I strip the X16XE that came out of hte Tigra I'll take a photo of both blocks.
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gazza808
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would be good to know as it'd be a good upgrade on the x16xe etc,
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DaveyLC
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Problem is you wont be able to use your standard TPS and exhaust manifold (so your aux air injection is going to have a paddy) which make it a bit pointless unless you are going custom management and if you are going to go that far you might as well use the 1.8 block.
[Edited on 26-03-2009 by DaveyLC]
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Richardhhha
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so what would someone need to get for you to do the conversion?
x18xel engine
engine loom, and ecu.
if thats the case how much would you charge for a GLS with PAS only cant be arsed with the pussy A/C
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Ojc
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£450, hes said it about 5 times
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Richardhhha
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kk so would if i wanted to get this conversion done, just need to get a x18xe or x18xel engine, with engine loom and ecu or will i need anything else?
as ive seen a nice b which i really want going for cheap well bloody cheep really considering its done 13k
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Nic Barnes
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quote:
Originally posted by mobby
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by sand-eel
a virtual reality sensor 
thats why the engines are so fast. becuase its not real
(joke mobby, dont get upset)
are you fishing?? two times in one thread, how old are you seriously
well, youve got hatred towards me, so i thought id approach it so you know i was joking instead of you starting to be a bell end for no reason.
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Mobby
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quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by mobby
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by sand-eel
a virtual reality sensor
thats why the engines are so fast. becuase its not real
(joke mobby, dont get upset)
are you fishing?? two times in one thread, how old are you seriously
well, youve got hatred towards me, so i thought id approach it so you know i was joking instead of you starting to be a bell end for no reason.
i have no hatred for you, you take the internet too seriously. get out there!
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Warren G
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davey the z18xe head WONT fit the x16xe
never gonna happen sorry
water ways/oil ways different
1.8 breaths through the head ways (crank breather) where as x16xe is external system
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Daveskater
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quote:
Originally posted by Richardhhha
would if i just need to get a x18xe or x18xel engine
Both of these engines are the wrong ones. You need an X18XE1. This is the problem with having so many different versions
I'm not actually sure they even did an X18XEL tbh.
Either way, the X18XE is a big block engine:
See here: http://www.dohc.co.uk/x18xe1/engines.html That explains all of the different types.
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Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by mobby
i have no hatred for you, you take the internet too seriously. get out there!
ive been out and about tonight. driving an engine converted corsa. and doing some work on it. its great fun. you should try it some day.
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sand-eel
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why is there so many stupid variations of the same bloody engines  so does the 1.8 SRI have vvt?
[Edited on 26-03-2009 by sand-eel]
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Nic Barnes
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quote:
Originally posted by sand-eel
why is there so many stupid variations of the same bloody engines so does the 1.8 SRI have vvt?
[Edited on 26-03-2009 by sand-eel]
because theyre all poor and under powered and basically a 1987 20xe is the correct engine to convert into a corsa. tried, tested, works a treat.
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sand-eel
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tell me about, next they will be fitting Saab engines into corsas 
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Mobby
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quote:
Originally posted by sand-eel
tell me about, next they will be fitting Saab engines into corsas
saab turbo 
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Daveskater
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quote:
Originally posted by sand-eel
why is there so many stupid variations of the same bloody engines so does the 1.8 SRI have vvt?
[Edited on 26-03-2009 by sand-eel]
No, that's the Z18XE if you mean Corsa C.
1.8 VVT's came in very late Astra G's.
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