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Nic Barnes

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25th Jan 10 at 23:19

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Originally posted by .Matt
been tested, leaves redtops at the line

[Edited on 25-01-2010 by .Matt]

i dont ever see that happening

edit, unless the 2.0 didnt set off at same time. does the 1.8 do a quicker 0-60? i cant see that it would?

[Edited on 25-01-2010 by Nic Barnes]

Mieran

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25th Jan 10 at 23:44

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Originally posted by markb1234

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Originally posted by Mieran

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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
i got 14.6 in a std 20xe corsa. no mods.

Not all XE'd Corsas are the same speed. Depends on the shell you used for the conversion, some are heavier than others.

theres not that much of a difference

200kg (give or take) in some cases.

.Matt

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26th Jan 10 at 00:01

From the experience i had with the redtop, i pulled away from it on the line through 1st and 2nd but 3rd is where its extra rev range beat me cause i had to change to 4th earlier where as the redtop had the extra give but it stuck with it till about 100-110 then the redtop kept going.

Mark B

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26th Jan 10 at 00:02

quote:
Originally posted by .Matt
From the experience i had with the redtop, i pulled away from it on the line through 1st and 2nd but 3rd is where its extra rev range beat me cause i had to change to 4th earlier where as the redtop had the extra give but it stuck with it till about 100-110 then the redtop kept going.

pish talk,or 1 of the valvers plug leads must of fell off
.....Is ur 1.8 standard?

[Edited on 26-01-2010 by markb1234]

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26th Jan 10 at 00:20

quote:
Originally posted by Mieran

quote:
Originally posted by markb1234

quote:
Originally posted by Mieran

quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
i got 14.6 in a std 20xe corsa. no mods.

Not all XE'd Corsas are the same speed. Depends on the shell you used for the conversion, some are heavier than others.

theres not that much of a difference

200kg (give or take) in some cases.

I would be very intrigued to know how much difference there is in weight as well as the difference off the line.

Weight + lower gear ratios must amount to something?

.Matt

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26th Jan 10 at 00:31

If you put the same c20xe in a corsa and then in a tigra; the tigra will be faster. the tigra is more streamline.

Mieran

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26th Jan 10 at 12:26

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I would be very intrigued to know how much difference there is in weight as well as the difference off the line.

Weight + lower gear ratios must amount to something?

I was comparing a redtop in a light shell vs a redtop in a heavy shell.

1.8 would lose either way.

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26th Jan 10 at 12:41

quote:
Originally posted by .Matt
From the experience i had with the redtop, i pulled away from it on the line through 1st and 2nd but 3rd is where its extra rev range beat me cause i had to change to 4th earlier where as the redtop had the extra give but it stuck with it till about 100-110 then the redtop kept going.

That has to be buggered. The XE has more torque (including lower in the rev range) and more power. Std vs Std, same sort of weight, both decent drivers, the XE will leave it constantly.

DannyE2010

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26th Jan 10 at 12:43

tha vid on the 1st page i saw was POO then the other one i saw went really well but im sure people would go with redtop first cause its got the power there straight away with no fuss

Mark B

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26th Jan 10 at 13:19

quote:
Originally posted by .Matt
If you put the same c20xe in a corsa and then in a tigra; the tigra will be faster. the tigra is more streamline.

Not totaly true ive had a redtop corsa and a redtop tigra and the tigra got the engine out the corsa when it failed an mot and there wasnt any big difference.

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26th Jan 10 at 16:16

The tigra "should" have more top end than the corsa.

I had a corsa c20xe and my neighbour had a calibra c20xe.

Down the motorway, it's a decline and i could whallop him until i'd hit the limiter in 5th but coming back up (incline) i couldn't pull past 120mph and he would beat me

Mine was a lightweight GSi shell, Early XE engine with Exhaust, Decat and Air Filter.

MarkSport

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26th Jan 10 at 16:26

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Originally posted by mk4_boy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7icP9YO-CY&feature=related

i would go for a xe on tbs personally..and drop it 200mm

edited jay

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26th Jan 10 at 16:37

how fast is a 1.8 ?
as fast as a week in the jail

Mark B

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26th Jan 10 at 16:57

quote:
Originally posted by johnhara1
The tigra "should" have more top end than the corsa.

I had a corsa c20xe and my neighbour had a calibra c20xe.

Down the motorway, it's a decline and i could whallop him until i'd hit the limiter in 5th but coming back up (incline) i couldn't pull past 120mph and he would beat me

Mine was a lightweight GSi shell, Early XE engine with Exhaust, Decat and Air Filter.

I no what your saying but theres not that much difference tbh,anyway why did he bring this up its got nothing to do with a 1.8

Nic Barnes

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26th Jan 10 at 17:53

quote:
Originally posted by Mieran

200kg (give or take) in some cases.

Nic Barnes

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26th Jan 10 at 18:00

quote:
Originally posted by .Matt
From the experience i had with the redtop, i pulled away from it on the line through 1st and 2nd but 3rd is where its extra rev range beat me cause i had to change to 4th earlier where as the redtop had the extra give but it stuck with it till about 100-110 then the redtop kept going.

take the stats for example of the std engine in the std car. a vectra. x18xe1 is a lot slower than an x20xev 0-60, top speed etc etc. now a cavalier isnt much difference in weight to a vectra and yet the 20xe is a lot quicker than the x20xev.

now put the same engine that was faster into a smaller car, why would the lower powered one be quicker to 60?

your experiences with a 20xe must be an old knackered one. as a good engine is a cracker in a corsa.

Warren G

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26th Jan 10 at 18:03

1.0<1.2<1.4<1.6<1.8<2.0

best way to describe a 1.8

faster than a 1.6 but slower than a 2.0

id amgen though, a 1.8 will be on par with a x20xev

Nic Barnes

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26th Jan 10 at 18:11

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Originally posted by .Matt

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Originally posted by Nic Barnes

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Originally posted by .Matt
1.8 = Quicker of line
2.0 = More Top End

what you prefer; is the answer.

why would it be quicker off the line

F13 box; works wonders against redtops.

now bear in mind that there is less power, and less torque to begin with. the f13 isnt going to improve the acceleration enough to over come the lack of torque and bhp. also, remember that the 20xe HAS the torque and power to use that box perfectly well and is an excellent combination.

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26th Jan 10 at 18:42

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200kg (give or take) in some cases.

1.2 Breeze shell Vs 1.6 sport shell.

You do the maths.

I'll admit that 200 is a bit exaggerated though.

Nic Barnes

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26th Jan 10 at 18:44

do you know the std weights of both?

Mieran

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26th Jan 10 at 18:45

Yes.

dean101287

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26th Jan 10 at 18:45

by about 150 kg

SportBoy

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26th Jan 10 at 18:48

me m8 ad a redtop like n me cuz 1.8 battad it innit like redtops r shte

Nic Barnes

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26th Jan 10 at 18:48

basically, the conclusion is the 1800 isnt particularly fast. a shade faster than a 1.6

the end.

John

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26th Jan 10 at 18:51

Is that why anyone who said the 1.8 is faster couldn't make it to the strip that day?

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