John
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Possibly.
Same applies though, it specifically tells me to leave it on until the light goes out yet the car started fine without it.
Yet these petrols take 3 seconds before they start up 
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Nic Barnes
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just ignore him ed. he knows best.
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ed
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My Fiat starts badly and in a cloud of white smoke if I don't let it let it heat up. I borrowed Tomnova16's Citroen and it started instantly, didn't even realise it was a diesel until I asked the next day!
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Nic Barnes
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my transit doesnt like to start unless glowplug light is off. dunno what john makes of that though.
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Ben J
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quote:
Originally posted by John
Possibly.
Same applies though, it specifically tells me to leave it on until the light goes out yet the car started fine without it.
Yet these petrols take 3 seconds before they start up
You know full well that they don't take 3 seconds before they start. You know full well where we are coming from and the reasons behind the questions asked.
You are a cock. Always have been...always will be...unless you grow up one day.
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Graham88
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Same as my Citroen Berlingo, it just keeps turning over until it's hot enough
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Rick Draper
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My audi starts and i have no idea even if it has a glow plug light, or a filter heater? Get in it, smash the throttle open, go slow and thats that.
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ed
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If it's got one of those MFD's on the dash I'd assume they'd show the icon on there if it mattered. That's what happens on Alfas which have similar.
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John
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben J
quote:
Originally posted by John
Possibly.
Same applies though, it specifically tells me to leave it on until the light goes out yet the car started fine without it.
Yet these petrols take 3 seconds before they start up
You know full well that they don't take 3 seconds before they start. You know full well where we are coming from and the reasons behind the questions asked.
You are a cock. Always have been...always will be...unless you grow up one day.
I'll never grow up.
The car shouldn't take 3 seconds before it will start properly no matter what you think of me, unlucky.
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bubble
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i noticed on the z19dth engines that if you started it without letting the glow light go off, they were a bit hesitant to rev straight away.
could be illuminated for a few seconds or so for a heated filter, or to use the glow relay for some other checks, or that it might takle it a few seconds to complete a check on the glow circuit.
the question initially was wether to wait until the dash calibrates for cranking, and in this situation i think its plausible that on the petrols you should observe the 2-3 seconds wait.
everything calibrates, abs modulators, adaptive headlights and xenons calibrate everytime ignition on. but visually, the dash is the only thing a driver really sees.
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Nic Barnes
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id go with what bubble says tbh. id trust the professionals over an internet know it all like john all day long.
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John
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I'll enquire with someone who may actually know the answer and let you know.
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Ben J
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I trust Bubbles answer tbh. Considering his bro is a Vaux Sparky.
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Rick Draper
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TBH i will wait till DaveyLC replys.
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bubble
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben J
I trust Bubbles answer tbh. Considering his bro is a Vaux Sparky.
i used to be one. i was a vauxhall gold tech on can-bus and sps.
but i no nothing
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Ben J
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Originally posted by Rick Draper
TBH i will wait till DaveyLC replys.
Isn't he a scrappy???
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Ben J
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quote:
Originally posted by bubble
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Originally posted by Ben J
I trust Bubbles answer tbh. Considering his bro is a Vaux Sparky.
i used to be one. i was a vauxhall gold tech on can-bus and sps.
but i no nothing
That will do for me.
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John
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So vauxhall garages are now excellent then because anybody who has a vauxhall qualification must be an expert
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Nic Barnes
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what is your problem john? just admit that you got it wrong and step away from general chat.
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Ben J
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quote:
Originally posted by John
So vauxhall garages are now excellent then because anybody who has a vauxhall qualification must be an expert
No but probs going to know a bit more than a desktop mechanic like yourself?
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Jambo
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If Bubble is right and John is wrong it makes one thing clear, its a stupid design.
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bubble
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quote:
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So vauxhall garages are now excellent then because anybody who has a vauxhall qualification must be an expert
no john. in a vauxhall garage there is probably about 3-4 techs max who have the relevant can bus qualifications.
bit of a difference from changing an oil filter to changing a control module.
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John
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There's absolutely no difference except with one of them you have to plug tech 2 in and get to keep your hands clean.
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bubble
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Originally posted by Jambo
If Bubble is right and John is wrong it makes one thing clear, its a stupid design.
it is a stupid design. there are some seriously silly things about can bus
ie, disconnect door plug looms on a vectra c or and astra h or corsa d and car wont start. or remove the radio. they have ridiculous things they have to do.
when reprogramming any ecu on a insignia, its done remotely with no tech in the car as even a change in suspension height from getting in the car can make the programme unhappy!
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bubble
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quote:
Originally posted by John
There's absolutely no difference except with one of them you have to plug tech 2 in and get to keep your hands clean.
your wrong there john, tech 2 is used now for older vehicles. new stuff is done remotely via bluetooth and a desktop.
i say older i mean pre MY 2010
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