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Tommy L
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Former England captain Alan Shearer: "Fabio Capello said some months ago that, to make it into his World Cup squad, players would have to be in form and playing regularly for for their clubs. Joe Cole and Emile Heskey are not, but I can understand why he has picked them because he has gone for tried and trusted players in his squad. What are our prospects? We've got a decent chance. Any team who wins this World Cup will need a bit of luck - England will need a little bit more. But if decisions go our way, and we keep our main XI fit, then we will have a decent chance."
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TBH I can see why he'd take the risk on Cole, as on his day he is head and shoulders above the over wingers in that squad.

Heskey however...
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I'd go with same team as Cosmo but with Hart in goal

Heskey is in because Rooney's last 10 games with Heskey alongside have brought 9 goals, his last 10 without have brought 2

Very surprised by the walcott exlcusion, although im not hugely arsed but i think hes a great impact sub - much better than SWP IMO

Surprised by Warnock being included also, onoly in that he didnt feature at all
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Is Walcott really a good impact sub though?

Ok, he has his pace which defenders won't like after 70 mins of SWP/Lennon but then that is all Walcott has to offer. His end ball is appalling. He has potential to be an impact sub but on current form is no where near that.
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Quick world cup comparison...

Our squad at France 98

David Seaman
Nigel Martyn
Tim Flowers

Sol Campbell
Graeme Le Saux
Tony Adams
Gareth Southgate
Gary Neville
Martin Keown
Rio Ferdinand

Paul Ince
David Beckham
David Batty
Steve McManaman
Darren Anderton
Paul Scholes
Robert Lee

Alan Shearer
Teddy Sheringham
Paul Merson
Les Ferdinand
Michael Owen


Our squad at Japan Korea 2002

David Seaman
David James
Nigel Martyn

Danny Mills
Ashley Cole
Rio Ferdinand
Sol Campbell
Wes Brown
Wayne Bridge
Martin Keown
Gareth Southgate

Trevor Sinclair
Kieron Dyer
David Beckham
Paul Scholes
Owen Hargreaves
Joe Cole
Nicky Butt

Teddy Sheringham
Darius Vassell
Robbie Fowler
Michael Owen
Emile Heskey

Our squad this year

David James
Rob Green
Joe Hart

Ferdinand
Upson
Warnock
Terry
A Cole
Carragher
King
Johnson

Gerrard
Lampard
Wright-Phillips
Lennon
Milner
Barry
Carrick
J Cole

Rooney
Defoe
Crouch
Heskey

I think we have the best chance we have had in recent years to go all the way...

[Edited on 01-06-2010 by moka]
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OK.....
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IMO Euro 96 squad was the best we've had in years.
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
OK.....

Squad doesn't quite have the same wow factor about it does it.
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quote:
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IMO Euro 96 squad was the best we've had in years.
I liked TV's idea of naming the squad well in advance to calm anxiety etc. and let them really plan tactics
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben J
IMO Euro 96 squad was the best we've had in years.
I liked TV's idea of naming the squad well in advance to calm anxiety etc. and let them really plan tactics


Yep....our first XI haven't even played together yet.
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Can someone explain why Carrick is in the squad? Hes been useless all season, the reasoning behind Heskey I can understand but I wouldn't have left Walcott at home and Carrick going, Carrick is horseshit.
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Cover for Barry I assume?
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IMO Barry shouldn't have gone. He's not fit enough to train until after USA game. He'll not be match fit etc.
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quote:
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Can someone explain why Carrick is in the squad?

Capello wanted to get in as many fit United players as possible
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Carrick really is over rated shite. I'd have parker long before him. If only fletcher was English
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Wonder if Carrick will have a blinder of a WC following all the negativity?

(Probably not! )
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Poorest England squad in a number of World Cups I think.

Looking at Brazil they're exactly the same as well.
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I think Beckham, Hargreaves, and (a fit) Owen are going to be a great loss. Even Sol can be a rock at the back
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quote:
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Poorest England squad in a number of World Cups I think.

Looking at Brazil they're exactly the same as well.


You say that but didnt we have the best qualifying campaign we have ever had?

Still i am disappointed at the inclusion of Heskey and SWP. SWP is not the game changing, impact sub we need. Walcott can be, likewise Johnson.

Ah well so long as we finish 2nd in the group im happy
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
For me....

-------------------------------James-------------------------------

Johnson---------------Rio----------------Terry---------------Cole

Lennon-------------Lampard--------------Barry-------------Cole

------------------------------Gerrard------------------------------

------------------------------Rooney------------------------------


100% this.
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Hammer
Poorest England squad in a number of World Cups I think.

Looking at Brazil they're exactly the same as well.


You say that but didnt we have the best qualifying campaign we have ever had?




Yep.
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I actually dont think its too bad a squad tbh.
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
I actually dont think its too bad a squad tbh.


I'm happy with it. Maybe wouldve swapped SWP for Johnson and Heskey for any other English striker in the world.

[Edited on 01-06-2010 by Nath]
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My starting 11:

James
Johnson Ferdinand Terry Cole
Milner Gerrard Barry Cole
Heskey Rooney

Then Crouch can come on for Heskey.
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No Lamps?

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