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gez bay

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23rd Dec 10 at 12:28

1k is cheap?

Fad

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23rd Dec 10 at 12:30

quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
Cheap and cheerful

Yeah mate.

Its not a dig but I though around the 500 mark surely is cheap for coilovers? You saying you would fit Gaz to the Astra if it became a serious dedicated track car?

gez bay

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23rd Dec 10 at 12:33

you would just go up the range rather than buy mid range £500, go up to gaz golds or something.

Ojc

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23rd Dec 10 at 12:35

quote:
Originally posted by Fad

quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
Cheap and cheerful

Yeah mate.

Its not a dig but I though around the 500 mark surely is cheap for coilovers? You saying you would fit Gaz to the Astra if it became a serious dedicated track car?

No mate, but that's because standard suspension is awesome.

£200 is cheap for coilovers, so you are discrediting the Bilsten B14 kit simply because it's less than £500?

Paul_J

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23rd Dec 10 at 12:35

here we go... Here we go... HERE WE GO!

Fad

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23rd Dec 10 at 12:38

Not at all I think its probably good (based on input fom Broster) but surely you can see the in comparison to the Gaz it is non damping rate adjustable yet the same price?

In response to the fact Paul is talking about a Clio dont you already have Gaz? I thought the KTR coilovers were rebranded Gaz coilovers?

http://www.k-tecracing.com/show_product.asp?id=1441&appid=2

[Edited on 23-12-2010 by Fad]

gez bay

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23rd Dec 10 at 12:40

apex i thought were the ktec kits.

Ojc

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23rd Dec 10 at 12:40

KW are shit - fact.

Thorney stopped selling them because they were so shit.

Fad

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23rd Dec 10 at 12:45

quote:
Originally posted by gez bay
apex i thought were the ktec kits.

Gez Look at the link above mate, I was looking into coilovers for my Clio I found that they were Gaz

Probably right Ollie as I've heard stories of KW coilover units leaving the factory with different damping readings etc. I even saw a set of V2's on a bench being sent back to KW under waranty. Didnt someone on here also have problems with their B14's? (green corsa)

Paul_J

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23rd Dec 10 at 12:47

My clio has ktecs on at the moment - I need to jack the car up and have a look at the rear shocks

gez bay

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23rd Dec 10 at 12:49

my bad fad. Thought you were looking at a different kit. Didnt bother to open the link.

Ojc

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23rd Dec 10 at 12:49

quote:
Originally posted by Fad

quote:
Originally posted by gez bay
apex i thought were the ktec kits.

Gez Look at the link above mate, I was looking into coilovers for my Clio I found that they were Gaz

Probably right Ollie as I've heard stories of KW coilover units leaving the factory with different damping readings etc. I even saw a set of V2's on a bench being sent back to KW under waranty. Didnt someone on here also have problems with their B14's? (green corsa)

B8's which are OE spec.

gez bay

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23rd Dec 10 at 12:59

any more pics of the car paul?

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23rd Dec 10 at 13:16

1k is cheap for coilovers

it really is

£200 is just a waste of money!

Warren G

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23rd Dec 10 at 13:30

very interested in this paul

whats the cost of entering the series? how many events?

surely you are well over 150whp/tonne? so you would be in Class B?

my coilover were £1400 new :/ would never pay that

these clio's seem to be very capable cars, how does the 'sharing' work with the races?

Paul_J

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23rd Dec 10 at 13:36

5 Races, £300 entry per race.
2 Driver 45 minute races, with a pitstop / driver change

You need FIA racesuit, FIA helmet, Gloves with nomex. FIA seat, FIA harnesses, a Rollcage which meets regs (full, with diagonal rear bar and door bars), fire extingisher and engine cut off and then ARDS test and you're ready to race.

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23rd Dec 10 at 13:37

... and a rain light

Paul_J

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23rd Dec 10 at 13:40

^^ yup.

What's the situation with that? can't you just use a fog light?

Warren G

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23rd Dec 10 at 13:42

quote:
Originally posted by Paul_J
5 Races, £300 entry per race.
2 Driver 45 minute races, with a pitstop / driver change

You need FIA racesuit, FIA helmet, Gloves with nomex. FIA seat, FIA harnesses, a Rollcage which meets regs (full, with diagonal rear bar and door bars), fire extingisher and engine cut off and then ARDS test and you're ready to race.

5 races or 5 different circuits

is that ONE race for 45minutes, and thats the event done?

so looking at
£1500 entry fees
£300 in fuel (one tank a event)
£500 tyres
£200 maintance etc

so looking at £3000 say without any major car faults for a session divided by 2 is £1500 each

not to bad realy

A2H GO

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23rd Dec 10 at 13:50

quote:
Originally posted by Warren G

quote:
Originally posted by Paul_J
5 Races, £300 entry per race.
2 Driver 45 minute races, with a pitstop / driver change

You need FIA racesuit, FIA helmet, Gloves with nomex. FIA seat, FIA harnesses, a Rollcage which meets regs (full, with diagonal rear bar and door bars), fire extingisher and engine cut off and then ARDS test and you're ready to race.

5 races or 5 different circuits

is that ONE race for 45minutes, and thats the event done?

so looking at
£1500 entry fees
£300 in fuel (one tank a event)
£500 tyres
£200 maintance etc

so looking at £3000 say without any major car faults for a session divided by 2 is £1500 each

not to bad realy

Paul_J

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23rd Dec 10 at 14:13

quote:
Originally posted by Warren G

quote:
Originally posted by Paul_J
5 Races, £300 entry per race.
2 Driver 45 minute races, with a pitstop / driver change

You need FIA racesuit, FIA helmet, Gloves with nomex. FIA seat, FIA harnesses, a Rollcage which meets regs (full, with diagonal rear bar and door bars), fire extingisher and engine cut off and then ARDS test and you're ready to race.

5 races or 5 different circuits

is that ONE race for 45minutes, and thats the event done?

so looking at
£1500 entry fees
£300 in fuel (one tank a event)
£500 tyres
£200 maintance etc

so looking at £3000 say without any major car faults for a session divided by 2 is £1500 each

not to bad realy

Yes, plus the car... which has to meet the regs.

and the clothing etc which once again has to be FIA approved and within expiry date. That stuff + ards is £1000 easy.

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23rd Dec 10 at 14:33

plus getting to and from....

1 set of tyres and brakes may do a year but you WILL NOT be competative.

200 on maintaince

Er..... good luck with that

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23rd Dec 10 at 14:35

quote:
Originally posted by Fad

quote:
Originally posted by AK
i think i always have a bit of a predutice against GAZ too

not sure why

Generally cheap and cheerful I think. I was at someone workshop when they had fitted them to a Clio and he commented that it has several clicks giving a false indication on how ajustable they were. Also said that they were predomantantly aimed at the rally market and they often spec them with wrong springs.

As long as you do you homework and know what you are specing (Like Lee303) I am sure they will be ok.

as said you can spec them with what ever springs you want if you know (lee etc ) what you want

and there dynoded to ensure they match side to side too

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23rd Dec 10 at 14:36

we worked out that we spent about 7-8k last year...

Entry fees were about £1500

we budgeted 2.5k for fuel to get there and on the day for the year. That should be too bad for you.

We spent maybe 1.5k on tyres

We spent about 6-700 on brake consumables

Or 'service' after each round costs about £150 so - 750 just in parts

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23rd Dec 10 at 14:36

I always thought GAZ were setupo by ex AVO employies, not LEDA

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