Russ
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if you are asking us for excuses then you cant have any yourself..
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Rob_Quads
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Originally posted by whitter45
I dont see how they can enforce that
I.e if my manager called me to say he had an email stating I was doing over 80 then I would ask what he could do about it
Its my risk If I want to speed
They can have it written in your contract that any speeding in a work vehicle is a disciplinary offence - Then they could use it to warn and ultimately sack you.
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Russ
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Originally posted by whitter45
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Originally posted by Gareth
Got one on my pug they use it for mileage audits, start/finish/overtime claims etc. We are limited to 78mph go over 80mph and it emails the manager and i expect to get a phone call saying slow down 
I dont see how they can enforce that
I.e if my manager called me to say he had an email stating I was doing over 80 then I would ask what he could do about it
Its my risk If I want to speed
However this would impact running costs of fuel etc so can see logic but cant see how they could enforce it
The way our company now does this is via tax office
They take manufacturers combined mpg figure and take 15% off for real driving conditions. they take an average cost of fuel (at the moment (1.40 for Derv) and then uses calculations to work out pence per mile. think mine i s 13p per mile. Each month we submit total mileage and business milage. They deduct my fuel card cost and pay me 13p a mile for business miles
Therefore if i use expensive fuel and drive aggressively everywhere I will be out of pocket even for my business miles
Its more of incentive to use cheaper fuel and drive more conservatively
i just get 58p a mile
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Russ
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Originally posted by strick206
adiohead is kicking off because he probably has a lot to hide
he works for his dad in his dads front room, i doubt it 
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Jake
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russ youre out of your depth in here
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Russ
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Well done mate, bar the apostrophe and a capital letter, that was a sentence.
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Jake
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what makes you think i will put any real effort in to anything directed towards you
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Russ
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dunno
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Bonney
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In all honesty if you think its a problem then you are obviously one of the people who is doing the wrong (Using vehicle when you shouldnt, driving irresponsably etc.)
Our vans at wok have them, Also they have the cameras in the front to show what the driver sees. Both are used for Insurance purposes to stop false claims.
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Russ
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how dare you suggest baza31 is dishonest
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adiohead
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quote:
Originally posted by Russ
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Originally posted by strick206
adiohead is kicking off because he probably has a lot to hide
he works for his dad in his dads front room, i doubt it
My dad couldn't give a shit where I go in the work van
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Daniel_Corsa
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We track all our fleet, vans, wagons, machines, and have tiny OBD port ones to put in cars if need be.
Can monitor everything from location, time spent driving from A-B, idle time, speed, acceleration and braking amongst others.
It should be more of a worry if you don't want it to be tracked what are you hiding?
Have alerts set to e-mail us if vehicle exceeds 95mph so not like keeping everyone to 70 like was other option.
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adiohead
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Originally posted by Daniel_Corsa
It should be more of a worry if you don't want it to be tracked what are you hiding?
So you'd be fine if the government had them fitted on your private vehicle? And automatically sent out speeding fines, etc.
I guess most of the arguments here have swayed me for it to be ok on work vehicles, but I'm not 100% on it. I still like to have trust and faith in people, maybe I'm too naive.
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taylorboosh
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very naive
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Gareth
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Its a small price to pay for a company car being tracked. Had mine serviced the other day, new brakes new tyres all round. You carnt beat picking your car up from a main dealer and just signing your name then walking out with a smug face thinking glad i didnt have to pay for that
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Dave
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In our case it was quite a big culture change that annoyed people. Originally we were just a joinery firm with a very relaxed attitude. As long as the work was done on time and to a good standard nothing much else mattered. When that firm was taken over by a main contractor we worked for things changed. Most of the management didn't trust us and support staff in the office didn't like the extra work they had to do because we were now working directly for them. Mechanic had 6 extra vans to look after, wages woman had a lot of extra wages to do etc.
Our main gripe with the trackers was they only ever worked in the companies favour. One day the wheel bearing went on the way home and we had to be recovered. We used to get paid 4 hrs to get from Reigate back to home. We left at 11am and got back at midnight on a Friday. Despite the tracker showing this we still only got our 4 hrs travel time.
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adiohead
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Originally posted by CorsaDave
Our main gripe with the trackers was they only ever worked in the companies favour. One day the wheel bearing went on the way home and we had to be recovered. We used to get paid 4 hrs to get from Reigate back to home. We left at 11am and got back at midnight on a Friday. Despite the tracker showing this we still only got our 4 hrs travel time.
I'd sue
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Ben G
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don't see the problem with the company doing that tbh.
don't speed or tailgate anyone and you'll be fine.
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Ben G
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Originally posted by adiohead
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Originally posted by Daniel_Corsa
It should be more of a worry if you don't want it to be tracked what are you hiding?
So you'd be fine if the government had them fitted on your private vehicle? And automatically sent out speeding fines, etc.
totally different.
in a company vehicle, you are representing the company if it's stickered up, hence why they have the ''hows my driving, call ...'' decals.
in your own vehicle, you aren't representing anyone but yourself, so people only think you are a cunt, and not the whole company.
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Dave
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Originally posted by adiohead
I'd sue
Bit difficult now, they went bust last year. The directors and accountant are now being prosecuted for fraud and tax evasion amongst other things. Karma I guess.
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Steve
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Too much micro management goes on in this country.
Bosses are obsessed with tieing everyone down on the smallest most irrelevant thiings, now its got to a point where bosses think you have to behave like that to be a good boss
Women in managerial rolse are worse with this type of behaviour
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Jambo
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It all boils down to too many people IMO.
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Chris
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It depends on the type of tracker, mate of mine said it just does a send on engine off, so long as the engine doesnt stop location is not sent.
But some stuff with send more data, its all about money, most hire cars are tracked.
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Daniel_Corsa
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I wouldn't have my own vehicle tracked but I don't see the problem about tracking company vehicles.
Your working for that company, why hide what your doing, if have something to hide obviously up to no good.
Find it and wrap it in tin foil if really that bothered or remove the sim card so can't send data back.
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Hammer
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
Too much micro management goes on in this country.
Bosses are obsessed with tieing everyone down on the smallest most irrelevant thiings, now its got to a point where bosses think you have to behave like that to be a good boss
Women in managerial rolse are worse with this type of behaviour
Putting a tracking device on a company van is not 'micro management' you fool. 
It is a vital tool for service providing companies, it stops skiving and it recoups personal mileage.
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