chrisritch
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Originally posted by DaveyLC
The system is flawed, everyone should pay the same proportion and the loop holes should be removed by making Tax Avoidance ILLIGAL!
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Jimbothebarbarian
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quote:
Originally posted by chrisritch
quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC
The system is flawed, everyone should pay the same proportion and the loop holes should be removed by making Tax Avoidance ILLIGAL!
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Nath
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Originally posted by Sunz
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Originally posted by Nath
Would you like to lose 50% just because somebody who is on £10k p.a. thinks you've got it good?
That's seriously one of the most idiotic things you have said, most of the time you can only quote other people, I see why you do now.
Oh dear, reading the rest of this thread must make you feel like a right twat
[Edited on 20-06-2012 by Nath]
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Ian
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I'd do it.
Quite clearly anyone on that sort of money is paying the best people to ensure they come out the best.
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Sunz
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quote:
Originally posted by Nath
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Originally posted by Sunz
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Originally posted by Nath
Would you like to lose 50% just because somebody who is on £10k p.a. thinks you've got it good?
That's seriously one of the most idiotic things you have said, most of the time you can only quote other people, I see why you do now.
Oh dear, reading the rest of this thread must make you feel like a right twat
[Edited on 20-06-2012 by Nath]
Please explain that then ?
And nope I don't feel like a twat, your question was pretty much a rhetorical one.
It's obvious it should be the same amount but at the end of the day we need to continue to build society and people who are taxed £75k a year for example still take home more then the average person and can live with a decent standard of living, more decent then many people can hope to achieve in their life time.
They live a decent standard of living thanks to what the taxes have created in the Uk, a safe place to live, free health care to an extent, environmental services, transport, law and order etc, is what your paying for on the bigger picture.
The World isn't all about ones self, how much money one has.
I don't have a problem with Jimmy Carr using a loop hole, I just find it's greedy, I would give the money to charity that I saved in the loop hole, maybe he does !
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Nath
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You'd give it to Greenpeace wouldn't you?
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Eck
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Some of these replies Would put mother fucking Theresa to shame with the giving.
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Fro
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Give all my wages to Marie Curie foundation, makes me feel warm inside.
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Eck
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I eat raw meat, drive in the most uneconomical manner I can, regularly beat my gran and take my pay cash in hand. Fuck the tax man.
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Cavey
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Jimmy Carr is still a Dick who isn't funny.
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JonnyJ
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quote:
Originally posted by Eck
I eat raw meat, drive in the most uneconomical manner I can, regularly beat my gran and take my pay cash in hand. Fuck the tax man.
Spoken in true Rangers fan style...
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Eck
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Originally posted by Cavey
Jimmy Carr is still a Dick who isn't funny.
Yeah that hasn't changed
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RichR
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Originally posted by Nath
You'd give it to Greenpeace wouldn't you?
Don't give money to those cunts ever please
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micra_pete
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if you earn a million you pay
£478,000.00 tax
£23,381.04 national insurance
£501,381.04 Total Deductions
How does that encourage people to be successful?
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micra_pete
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Cavey
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LeeM
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youre right, fuck earning a million and only having half a million left to live on, best stick to earning £7500 a year and not paying any.
a big contributing factor to the shit in greece is tax avoidance
[Edited on 20-06-2012 by LeeM]
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micra_pete
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either you realised your mistake or didn't add the top two figures together to make the total. Either way 
quote:
Originally posted by LeeM
youre right, fuck earning a million and only having half a million left to live on, best stick to earning £7500 a year and not paying any.
a big contributing factor to the shit in greece is tax avoidance
[Edited on 20-06-2012 by LeeM]
Say you earn 30k a year, you wont pay in your life what someone earning a million pays every year.
Why are you punished heavily for doing well?
[Edited on 20-06-2012 by micra_pete]
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LeeM
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you arent you pay a portion of your wage as tax. if you dont like it dont live in the country. everybody is in the same boat and without tax money the country wouldnt be able to function.
if ive had to pay tax and struggle on a grand a month why should some millionaire get away without paying his way? its not our favourite outgoing, but tax is a fact.
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Ian
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quote:
Originally posted by micra_pete
if you earn a million you pay
£478,000.00 tax
£23,381.04 national insurance
£501,381.04 Total Deductions
There's no way the vast majority of people in that position do that.
Its all shares and benefits, very much doubt anyone actually loses £501k in deductions.
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James
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Jimmy Carr has just tweeted apologising and said he has pulled out of the K2 scheme.
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Eck
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quote:
Originally posted by LeeM
you arent you pay a portion of your wage as tax. if you dont like it dont live in the country. everybody is in the same boat and without tax money the country wouldnt be able to function.
if ive had to pay tax and struggle on a grand a month why should some millionaire get away without paying his way? its not our favourite outgoing, but tax is a fact.
But why should they pay a larger percentage?
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ed
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One thing, who the fuck does David Cameron think he is singling out one person who does this? He's clearly using him as a scapegoat to cover up one of his many fuckups AND there are probably hundreds, if not thousands of people using schemes to pay very small amounts of tax.
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micra_pete
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quote:
Originally posted by LeeM
you arent you pay a portion of your wage as tax. if you dont like it dont live in the country.
Yep, and take your business, employment and massive contributions to the country with you.
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Originally posted by Ian
There's no way the vast majority of people in that position do that.
Its all shares and benefits, very much doubt anyone actually loses £501k in deductions.
Reading the above though Ian, it appears that they should
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Robbo
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quote:
Originally posted by LeeM
a big contributing factor to the shit in greece is tax avoidance
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no, thats tax evasion... a completely different thing and very very illegal. its also a cultural thing in greece and hasnt suddenly come about due to austerity, just magnified.
shame hes been hounded out by morons who think like sunz. hes done zero wrong other than use his brain.
however, in fairness, said schemes shouldnt be legal on the basis that they essentially purely exist for the purposes of evading tax. expect to see the rules tigthend shortly.
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