Ian
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Originally posted by Nath
Easy money though according to Internet.
Which other automotive sector has so many start-ups moving straight in to big flash workshops?
In fact which other sector of any industry takes people who are very poorly qualified and gives them 6 figure businesses in a couple of years?
It beats mapping hands down at being full of people who have been doing it a couple of years at most but are now the person the internet wants to bum.
I know you're going to tell me they work hard but I still maintain, you simply couldn't turn out that magnitude of success across the board in other areas of business. The returns are disproportionate. Best of luck to anyone on the right side of it tbh.
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3i_gaz
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Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
What fucking piss artist done that embroidering?!
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Steve
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lol fancy made up job titles to go with a fancy made up industry
[Edited on 30-01-2013 by Steve]
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Ben J
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FFS. I look like a fucking tramp when i'm out doing my car.
Hoody and trackies or t-shirt and shorts, all in a fucking state. But I don't want anything thats going to scratch the car or anything I don't mind ruining.
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Ben G
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Originally posted by Ben J
FFS. I look like a fucking tramp when i'm out doing my car.
Hoody and trackies or t-shirt and shorts, all in a fucking state. But I don't want anything thats going to scratch the car or anything I don't mind ruining.
Didn't know you were a professional detailer.
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Steve
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Would you be happy to pay a 4 figure sum to a chav that turned up in a hoody and trackies to wash your car? even if the internet claimed he had the skills?
[Edited on 30-01-2013 by Steve]
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Ben J
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Hoody and trackies shouldn't have any bearing on it. The chav part might.
But admittedly if I was running a detailing business and charging a premium i'd ensure I looked the part.
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Ben G
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It wouldn't give me the best first impression.
I had a dfs service manager come out last week to fix a problem I had with split stitching. He turned up in a nice white shirt, black trousers and black shoes.
Looked very smart. Imagine if he turned up in joggers and nike trainers? Wouldn't give the company the best image.
Obviously it's a subjective view. Some agree, others don't. I just think if someones paying that much for a detail then i'm sure they can afford some cheap black trousers (which probably.cost less than jogging bottoms).
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Nath
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Originally posted by Ian
quote:
Originally posted by Nath
Easy money though according to Internet.
Which other automotive sector has so many start-ups moving straight in to big flash workshops?
In fact which other sector of any industry takes people who are very poorly qualified and gives them 6 figure businesses in a couple of years?
It beats mapping hands down at being full of people who have been doing it a couple of years at most but are now the person the internet wants to bum.
I know you're going to tell me they work hard but I still maintain, you simply couldn't turn out that magnitude of success across the board in other areas of business. The returns are disproportionate. Best of luck to anyone on the right side of it tbh.
Fair play to them then. I wouldnt want to do it. Washing cars is boring as fuck. If they can do it and turn a nice sum then well done.
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Rich H
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Originally posted by GB123
Didn't know that 
Whereabouts?
Same estate as Lepsons, virtually opposite them I believe.
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John
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
quote:
Originally posted by Nath
Easy money though according to Internet.
Which other automotive sector has so many start-ups moving straight in to big flash workshops?
In fact which other sector of any industry takes people who are very poorly qualified and gives them 6 figure businesses in a couple of years?
It beats mapping hands down at being full of people who have been doing it a couple of years at most but are now the person the internet wants to bum.
I know you're going to tell me they work hard but I still maintain, you simply couldn't turn out that magnitude of success across the board in other areas of business. The returns are disproportionate. Best of luck to anyone on the right side of it tbh.
Agree with all of this Ian. Obviously doesn't hold true for everyone, when Rich used to post his details on here he seemed much more realistic.
DW is jam packed with people who clearly didn't finish school but now have a polisher, a DSLR, a 'studio' and a thesaurus. They are now the utmost authority on all that is washing a car fancily.
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BluKoo
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I don't know of many start-ups who have been able to move straight in to big flash workshops.
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Steve
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Agree, I reckon Rich H is the sort of business that would survive before the internet, the rest of these are people that operate because of the bumming they get on forums
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BluKoo
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Rich H gets bummed on forums too
Everyone does.
The success is purely down to the results produced and repeat business coming from good reviews and word of mouth.
90% of people who read detailing forums are detailers, so they not going to be influenced to get their car detailed by someone else.
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GB123
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Originally posted by Rich H
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Originally posted by GB123
Didn't know that
Whereabouts?
Same estate as Lepsons, virtually opposite them I believe.
Ah right, it's not in the best of areas.
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John
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Originally posted by BluKoo
The success is purely down to the results produced and repeat business coming from good reviews and word of mouth.
90% of people who read detailing forums are detailers, so they not going to be influenced to get their car detailed by someone else.
Disagree with both points.
Fancy pictures look much better than a guy getting the same results in his garage and taking a badly lit picture with his phone. You should know how easy it is to make a picture look much better than the paint will look in reality.
I doubt 90% of users do detailing for a day job. The whole point of the forum is to justify their existence, which means they need a larger proportion of the public to impress.
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BluKoo
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Originally posted by John
Disagree with both points.
Fancy pictures look much better than a guy getting the same results in his garage and taking a badly lit picture with his phone. You should know how easy it is to make a picture look much better than the paint will look in reality.
When I said results produced, I meant real life results. As in how the customer reacts and how pleased he is when he collects the car. Pictures play no part in that.
Polished Bliss's custom comes from word of mouth. Their clients don't sit on DW looking for the person with the best pictures so they can decide who's going to detail their car
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Originally posted by John
I doubt 90% of users do detailing for a day job. The whole point of the forum is to justify their existence, which means they need a larger proportion of the public to impress.
Okay, they're maybe not professional detailers, but they obviously have an interest in it and probably take care of their own work themselves.
And when you understand and appreciate detailing, you don't need to justify it. You already know it makes sense.
Not for every car on the road, and not for every car owner as some people just don't give a shit, but for those who really care for their cars, a good detail is worth every penny.
[Edited on 30-01-2013 by BluKoo]
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Kyle T
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So many people still look at detailing as an expensive car wash. As soon as you realise that a good detailer can actually repair damaged paintwork, you'll realise that it's a few hundred quid is well spent.
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BluKoo
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Originally posted by Kyle T
So many people still look at detailing as an expensive car wash. As soon as you realise that a good detailer can actually repair damaged paintwork, you'll realise that it's a few hundred quid is well spent.
Exactly. This one from a few years ago always springs to mind: http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=71622
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FlaFFy_91
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Originally posted by BluKoo
When I said results produced, I meant real life results. As in how the customer reacts and how pleased he is when he collects the car. Pictures play no part in that.
Polished Bliss's custom comes from word of mouth. Their clients don't sit on DW looking for the person with the best pictures so they can decide who's going to detail their car
When you understand and appreciate detailing, you don't need to justify it.
[Edited on 30-01-2013 by BluKoo]
Exactly this. You will find that almost all of the people on dw are into there detailing and enjoy doing it. They do it themselfs and they do it for mates and family. It's a very very rare occasion that you see a professional posting about a job they did on another members car
The Internet side of it is mostly to show people that enjoy it and like to see the results possible if you know your stuff
Although personally I don't like the whole KDS cult that's appeared very suddenly.
[Edited on 30-01-2013 by FlaFFy_91]
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BluKoo
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Originally posted by FlaFFy_91
Although personally I don't like the whole KDS cult that's appeared very suddenly.
To be fair KDS have been around for a while now, and from what i've seen they've always produced good results.
Here's one from late 2009: http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=141365
[Edited on 30-01-2013 by BluKoo]
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FlaFFy_91
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No I agree the results are good and yea they have been around for awhile. But it seems they went from being a detailing studio to a massive cult like following in a matter of days. For example I would say that from the threads I have read and the info I have seen some of if not most your PB's results have been miles better than the kds stuff. Yet asoon as kds post anything the work goes mad for them
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BluKoo
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The only thing I think is stupid about that KDS link i just posted is that he takes gloss readings before he even washes it, then gloss readings after the wash, correction, and protection.
He should have taken the readings after the wash, but before the correction.
I also find that KDS include too many pictures sometimes. End up getting bored and skipping half the detail
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Ben G
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agree on the pictures. i looked at the first few, skipped all the middle bit and then looked at the professional pics at the end.
your brother does it well. not too much writing, not too many pics.
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Steve
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Rich H repairs paint and it doesnt cost into the 4 figures
Maybe the prices would be reasonable if half the time wasnt taking pics
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