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A2H GO
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Originally posted by A2H GO
People who think diesels are horrible to drive have never driven a modern diesel or are racing their mates to work and back everyday.


Compared to a petrol they kind of do suck, small power band, no revs, poo sound, shorter gearing meaning constantly changing gear.

Thats not to say they dont have advantages - id have one certainly.


Considering most people use their for stuff other than racing all those 'disadvantages' are irrelevent.

Most don't need a large powerband, 10k revs, a loud exhaust and long gear ratios to get to work and back.

EDIT: Obviously those people who drive because they 'enjoy' it will hate diesels, but then they also won't be concerned about fuel consumption and saving money.

[Edited on 14-02-2013 by A2H GO]
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Of course not, but thats an extreme view.

The ones ive driven (manuals obv) i have been forwever throwing the gearstick around to get the thing to move, then it goes woooosh then nothing. Its very frustrating compared to a smooth petrol. As I said, it has advantages, namely nippy low speed driving, its a solid feeling with a heavy block and all that torque at low revs.

As I said, I would happily own one. It doesnt mean they are perfect though.
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Love mine, easy effortless driving with some pace when needed.

Not noticed having to use the box anymore than other petrol cars I've had or when driving mums, still sit in 4th at 30 as i have done with petrols too.

Will own another petrol in the future though but probably as a a bit of fun.

[Edited on 14-02-2013 by Fro]
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14th Feb 13 at 13:35   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Agree about revs, mine needed about 500rpm more, 6 cylinder diesels are better for revs as they are more balanced, which also means they don't rattle around as much.
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Originally posted by Jambo
Of course not, but thats an extreme view.

The ones ive driven (manuals obv) i have been forwever throwing the gearstick around to get the thing to move, then it goes woooosh then nothing. Its very frustrating compared to a smooth petrol. As I said, it has advantages, namely nippy low speed driving, its a solid feeling with a heavy block and all that torque at low revs.

As I said, I would happily own one. It doesnt mean they are perfect though.


I don't find myself changing gear anymore than I would in our petrol, infact thinking about it I'd say less as for round town you never even get to 5th or 6th in the diesel.

Only thing that annoys me is if you catch the rev's wrong when trying to hasitly pull out from a junction and it bogs down till the power comes in
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I never found I was changing gear more, probably actually even less if anything as diesels have their power low down so found I didn't need to change down to accelerate like I would in a petrol.

I want a 330d.
A2H GO
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^ Me too, is that the biggest diesel they do in the newer 3 series coupes?
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335d is the biggest/most powerful
Fro
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Think they went up to 335
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I want a Q7 V12 TDI
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I want a Q7 V12 TDI


Not the only one!
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Originally posted by Jambo
Of course not, but thats an extreme view.

The ones ive driven (manuals obv) i have been forwever throwing the gearstick around to get the thing to move, then it goes woooosh then nothing. Its very frustrating compared to a smooth petrol. As I said, it has advantages, namely nippy low speed driving, its a solid feeling with a heavy block and all that torque at low revs.

As I said, I would happily own one. It doesnt mean they are perfect though.


I don't find myself changing gear anymore than I would in our petrol, infact thinking about it I'd say less as for round town you never even get to 5th or 6th in the diesel.

Only thing that annoys me is if you catch the rev's wrong when trying to hasitly pull out from a junction and it bogs down till the power comes in


The last part is the case for turbo petrols too though.
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Far too many e-experts replying in here
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
Far too many e-experts replying in here
Jambo
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Deffo Dave, my fiancee has a 1.2 Turbo and accidentally pulling out in 2nd low revs is dangerous tbh!

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