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Jambo
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11th Apr 13 at 12:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I have no idea on the predicted depreciation on the Zoe, could be a deciding factor.

For an example John, My Partner bought a new Clio 1.2 Tce in September (62) Was about £13.5k (slightly better spec than Zoe) and that with a £1500 deposit is around £210 a month and it does 35mpg to the advertised 50 lol.

Same 4+ with 0% but this needs tax and fuel.
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£70/month is silly tbf.

Pointless saying it only costs £5/6 to fill when you're paying £70 a month for it to just sit on the drive.
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11th Apr 13 at 12:40   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jambo
Same 4+ with 0% but this needs tax and fuel.
£70 worth of tax and fuel?
Jambo
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11th Apr 13 at 12:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
£30 of tax leaves £40 of fuel? Not much is it.
mwg
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£30 of tax every month?
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quote:
Originally posted by Jambo
My Partner bought a new Clio 1.2 Tce in September (62) Was about £13.5k


Excuse me if I've read this wrong, I thought for a moment there you said she paid £13.5k for a 1.2 clio.


[Edited on 11-04-2013 by A2H GO]
Jambo
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Somewhere around that yes, it was brand new though. And its a 1.2 Turbo.
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quote:
Originally posted by mwg
£30 of tax every month?


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11th Apr 13 at 13:48   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
So if you commuted to and from work in a Zoe, 30 miles a day, how would that compare cost wise to a petrol car with the same power?
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quote:
Originally posted by Jambo
Somewhere around that yes, it was brand new though. And its a 1.2 Turbo.


Fair enough, I can't imagine that anyone who's concerned about economy (and therefore saving money) would pay £12.5k for a brand new Clio.

I'm loosing £300 a month in depreciation but hey I save a tenner on fuel and it's only £30 to tax.
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13.5k for a clio focus was 500 quid more and is cheaper monthly payments.
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13.5k for a clio focus was 500 quid more and is cheaper monthly payments.


Thats how much they cost you morons Clio is a great car and thats what she wanted, its not my car! Anyway she is on 0% Finance so will own the car its not a PCP/lease. And we are not talking about her car I was saying I spend £200 a month on the M3, IF I got a small car as a second cheaper car it would be a Zoe.

Seem to be getting the third degree here with no real arguments to back them up (Except MattyG )
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
So if you commuted to and from work in a Zoe, 30 miles a day, how would that compare cost wise to a petrol car with the same power?


Clio for example would be similar cost to purchase, minus the £70 p/m batt lease. Then the fuel on top which would be £X
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So you're in pocket with the electric car if you spend £70 or more on fuel a month (not counting the extra electricity you'd use charging it up everynight ).
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11th Apr 13 at 14:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Wouldnt need charging every night. Its range is 100odd miles. Charge it roughly every 10days I reckon. Costs £3.

Fuel is ridiculously expensive. Especially town driving, not using brochure figures, plus its never going to get cheaper. I think this is a viable alternative in my position. Doesnt make it right for you or the best car ever.

But I would be severely tempted to buy one.
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11th Apr 13 at 15:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Just for John...



[Edited on 11-04-2013 by A2H GO]
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11th Apr 13 at 15:22   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
So 12k a year breaks even.

unless you charge it at work....

[Edited on 11-04-2013 by Robin]
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so no point in getting one unless you're doing over 12k a year. Then you are most probably doing a bit of motorway driving, is a small electric car suited to motorway driving? Always think of them as a city car

[Edited on 11-04-2013 by mwg]
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Works if you live outside the congestion charge zone in London and work inside it I guess
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Can you drive them through floods?
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11th Apr 13 at 15:42   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Also bear in mind that the technology is still developing, in a few years the mileage will have doubled, charge times will have halved and they'll make a lot more sense.
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I reckon they will never price it way below petrol, they will work everything out and make the maximum amount of money from people they can, while offering them the minimal amount of savings over petrol.

Quite convenient how the costs work out
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Yeah once people start to ditch traditional engine cars in any kind of decent numbers there will be a tax slapped on electric cars somewhere
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Ash's chart does forget tax, depreciation and servicing mind.

Another couple of years it'll be making more sense I reckon

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