chrisritch
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Shame they were martyred and didn't get bummed in prison for the next 20 years.
First impressions on BBC says no hostages where harmed which is nice 
Fuck that, Glad they're dead, They can in no way preach their message of hatred anymore.
That and they don't get a cushy life in prison!
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Ben G
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They'll be pissed when they reach the afterlife and find nothing but Jimmy Saville and his buttfuckng cronies and no virgins.
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A1EX
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at least 4 hostages dead from the supermarket
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Aaron
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I'm glad the hostage takers are dead, but I wish the news outlets would now stfu about them. I wish the focus was now on anything other than them tbh, as they don't deserve the attention
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Gary
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They'll be pissed when they reach the afterlife and find nothing but Jimmy Saville and his buttfuckng cronies and no virgins.
There'll be load of virgins. Thing is though, how many fit virgins do you know? They're normally heffers.
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Ben G
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I dunno mate, some of those amish birds are pretty fit.
Probably been fucked by their dads though, so wouldn't count.
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Ben G
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at least 4 hostages dead from the supermarket
I was surprised at the initial reports suggesting no hostage casualties. Also, one suspect is on the run. I assume it's the black guy as the other is a female.
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They'll be pissed when they reach the afterlife and find nothing but Jimmy Saville and his buttfuckng cronies and no virgins.
There'll be load of virgins. Thing is though, how many fit virgins do you know? They're normally heffers.
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I think that they should start by 1) giving no aid what so ever to any country out of the EU 2) stop flights or any other means of flying to or from these country's and 3) bring back public death sentences for murderers or people convicted of plotting any form of the atrocities that we are witnessing on a weekly basis.
1) Oh yes, forcing the poor and needy into further poverty will solve everything. After all, countries who in the past have blocked out international aid for their people have a great track record of being functional.
2) Flights are literally the only means of flying.
3) Again, fantastic track record for capital punishment. Guaranteed to work.
The level of hypocrisy on display, when people think the solution to issues with underdeveloped nations is going back to middle age tactics is just beyond measure.
[Edited on 09-01-2015 by Balling]
1) who gives a fuck . Not mine or others problem . If you want it to be your problem go over and do your bit and give them your money.
2) I meant any other form Of transport
3) it would get rid of these people rather than cost money to keep them. I am sure it would be a lot more satisfying for victims friends and family
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3) it would get rid of these people rather than cost money to keep them. I am sure it would be a lot more satisfying for victims friends and family
Great! It's good to know that nobody innocent has ever been wrongly sentenced to the death penalty either
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SVM 286
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You mention nazis been bad but if we'd let them the over I bet there'd be non of this shit going on now.
Well that was a bold statement. 
[Edited on 09-01-2015 by Balling]
I'd be interested to know though.
Well there almost certainly would be no black/brown/beige/yellow people left on the planet decades ago, plus all copies of nonsense like the quran would have been incinerated around the same time.
I think it's fair to assume that planet earth would be a sea of blonde, blue eyed fair skins driving around in nice Mercedes and eating cold meats for breakie.
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...driving around in nice Mercedes...
Oh yes, the extreme right wing is all about luxury and wellfare...
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Ben G
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You had me right up until cold meats for breakfast. Disgusting.
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Balling
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Originally posted by baza31
1) who gives a fuck . Not mine or others problem . If you want it to be your problem go over and do your bit and give them your money.
2) I meant any other form Of transport
3) it would get rid of these people rather than cost money to keep them. I am sure it would be a lot more satisfying for victims friends and family
I do give a portion of my money. As do you.
And if you think international inequality can just be ignored and not have any impact on your country or life you're sorely mistaken.
I'm also glad to help. We live in the developed world and have more than enough luxury. I'm proud and privileged to be born in a country where I make enough money that the government can take some and give it to people less fortunate without it affecting my way of life in any significant way.
Your notion that capital punishment would simply be an effective way of getting "rid of these people" is not only false but completely ignorant. This has been proven and documented time and time again, hence it being abolished in the first place.
The mere fact that you think the solution can be found in the past is pretty laughable given that it's fairly easy to prove that it didn't work the last time.
I do think this is a very interesting discussion and I think it highlights a very big and growing issue in todays society. It's very visible over here, but from current politics and media it seems to be even more common in the UK.
There seems to be a majority (or at least very vocal minority) of people with a complete and utter sense of self-entitlement combined with an utter lack of capacity for taking responsibility.
I'm much more worried about how this will affect the world in the near future than a few wackos with guns.
[Edited on 09-01-2015 by Balling]
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baza31
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3) it would get rid of these people rather than cost money to keep them. I am sure it would be a lot more satisfying for victims friends and family
Great! It's good to know that nobody innocent has ever been wrongly sentenced to the death penalty either
We are in 2015 not 1915 . We have a justice system and there is a small thing called evidence and courts to trial people .
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We are in 2015 not 1915 . We have a justice system and there is a small thing called evidence and courts to trial people.
Those things existed in 1915. As did corrupt politicians and officials, just like today.
If you think CSI is going to make the difference when they bring back the death penalty, I'm sure you'll be disappointed.
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SVM 286
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You had me right up until cold meats for breakfast. Disgusting.
Come on Ben! Imagine it. Bliss.
Wake up with a hangover. Skull some Chorizo, some Serrano and Parma ham. A drop of decent coffee and then job done.
You wouldn't be starving again at 10am neither. 
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...driving around in nice Mercedes...
Oh yes, the extreme right wing is all about luxury and wellfare...
I love how the 'socialist' nazis sold Beetles to their own people that they would never EVER get to see, let alone drive/own.
Just robbed them blind and used their money for the war effort. Wicked cunts
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We are in 2015 not 1915 . We have a justice system and there is a small thing called evidence and courts to trial people .
How completely clueless you are is both hilarious and also rather worrying. In addition to what Balling has already said, all of the things you have mentioned existed in 1915.
Additionally though, in US states where capital punishment is still carried out, miscarriages of justice still frequently occur at a fairly alarming rate.
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baza31
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Originally posted by baza31
We are in 2015 not 1915 . We have a justice system and there is a small thing called evidence and courts to trial people .
How completely clueless you are is both hilarious and also rather worrying. In addition to what Balling has already said, all of the things you have mentioned existed in 1915.
Additionally though, in US states where capital punishment is still carried out, miscarriages of justice still frequently occur at a fairly alarming rate.
Frequently occur ? How can you back that statement up? What am getting at is the fact that death penalty would be better all around in certain cases and a deterrent as these people are embarrassed by shame . They would hate the humiliation more than death . A person been trialled fairly is another thing totally you moron .
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John
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Balling and GB123, you should both know better than to even try having a genuine debate with baza.
Death penalty works well in America doesn't it baza. Great deterrent.
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Frequently occur ? How can you back that statement up?
What would you like, examples or statistics?
Well, since 1992, 17 death row inmates in the US alone have been exonerated on the grounds of new DNA evidence. Inmates that would have been killed had the evidence not come to light.
Also, this article from the guardian also states that 4% of death row inmates at present in the US are innocent, or around 200 people to put it into numbers.
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A person been trialled fairly is another thing totally you moron .
Finally, it's also quite confusing to be called a moron by somebody who, a) Doesn't know the difference between been and being, and b) Puts a space before a full stop.
[Edited on 09-01-2015 by GB123]
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Whilst that's true John, I do enjoy it in a strange way.
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Dave
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Are you saying if there was a death penalty there would be less suicide bombers baza? Quite a bold claim that.
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