Dom
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Originally posted by Ben G
This corsa vxr is supposedly the new model, yet it looks like the old one. Strange.
No more stranger than every other car manufacturer - just look at Porsche's and Saab's etc
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Originally posted by Ben G
The Fiesta ST has 200ps. After 15 seconds of full throttle without lifting off, it reduces to 180ps.
I'm guessing they did this for emission marketing?
[Edited on 12-08-2015 by Dom]
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nathy_87
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What would you expect to have as reliable power from a 1600 Turbo? What does your Fabia have?
to be honest I would've thought it'd have more how much? I'm not sure. Mines a 1.4 tsi with 180bhp admittingly mine also has a supercharger.
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Steve
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The Fiesta ST has 200ps. After 15 seconds of full throttle without lifting off, it reduces to 180ps.
Corsa has a similar overboost function though they don't quote the bhp increase, the torque is increased by 20, there will be a power increase too, probably similar amount to that I'd imagine.
so the BHP differences are still there if we doing like by like comparisons
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Ian
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Far prefer that dash over the D.
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MikeF86
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Nathy is basically just a massive weirdo, blurts out stupidity without thinking. Basically it's a form of tourettes for the dumb
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deano87
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Ford can get 140ps from a 1.0 
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deano87
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Can you explain why your corsa vxr is over 200kg's heavier than the market leader fiesta st?
Unfortunately The Fiesta will look dated in about 3 weeks.. 
No doubt. The current gen fiesta bodystyle is from 2008. It's due a new model. They've aged well and the figures don't lie. Best selling car in the UK.
This corsa vxr is supposedly the new model, yet it looks like the old one. Strange.
 Corsa has been about since 2006. Imagine it after the E is done. Will be 15 years old looking pretty much the same.
They say it's a completely new chassis but interesting how the bodywork is the same.
I saw a 63 plate Fiesta ST t'other day. Didn't realise they were knocking 2 years old.
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Steve
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Its similar, I don't think its the same panels used. The rear quarter is different, not sure about the doors, obviously front end is all different
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DaveyLC
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Originally posted by Ben G
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Originally posted by DaveyLC
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Originally posted by Ben G
Can you explain why your corsa vxr is over 200kg's heavier than the market leader fiesta st?
Unfortunately The Fiesta will look dated in about 3 weeks..
No doubt. The current gen fiesta bodystyle is from 2008. It's due a new model. They've aged well and the figures don't lie. Best selling car in the UK.
This corsa vxr is supposedly the new model, yet it looks like the old one. Strange.
Historically Fiestas have aged very badly.. Look at an L reg fiesta then look at the equivalent Corsa.. You can pretty much do the same Generation for Generation and every time when you look back the Vauxhall looks better.
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Ben G
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But that's completely subjective. I'm sure guys with fiesta rs turbo's think they're the greatest looking thing ever.
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Steve
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Same with gfs too. Some gfs i look at and think wtf
[Edited on 12-08-2015 by Steve]
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Ben G
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Originally posted by Steve
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Originally posted by Ben G
The Fiesta ST has 200ps. After 15 seconds of full throttle without lifting off, it reduces to 180ps.
Corsa has a similar overboost function though they don't quote the bhp increase, the torque is increased by 20, there will be a power increase too, probably similar amount to that I'd imagine.
so the BHP differences are still there if we doing like by like comparisons
There is no power increase. I read up on it. Only torque is increased. Must be some wierd American wizardy going on.
[Edited on 12-08-2015 by Ben G]
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Steve
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Show me where it says power isn't increased? The two I would have thought would be unavoidably linked, if the extra torque is made by increasing boost which is what is suggested.
The only way torque could be increased without power would be through gearing imo
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Ben G
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If power was increased, don't you think they'd advertise that also, considering bhp figures sell?
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3CorsaMeal
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210bhp all motor right here 
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Kyle T
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Originally posted by nathy_87
its fucking shit!
It's got 3bhp per 1.0 litre less than your powerhouse, nice one.
Lotus Elise 111R
Impreza WRX STi
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chris_uk
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What are the 0-100mph times of both cars? Also whats the 50-70 time?
Forget power.. Lets see what the times say..
It wouldnt supprise me if a 20 year old punto gt beat both.
Also. What was the price of the corsa? Wouldnt you of been able to buy a 1/2 year old vxr astra.. ?
[Edited on 12-08-2015 by chris_uk]
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tom130691
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Originally posted by chris_uk
Out of interest, which has the highest torque?
corsa is 280,
fiesta is 290
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Steve
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6.5 0-62 for the corsa
Might be quicker on performance packed models with the diff
Think the fiesta is about 6.9
[Edited on 12-08-2015 by Steve]
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Steve
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Also. What was the price of the corsa? Wouldnt you of been able to buy a 1/2 year old vxr astra.. ?
Got mine for 17.2k
Could have gotten loads of second hand things for the same or less probs
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tom130691
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parkers.co.uk for the corsa is broken, its over 10
uses the mountune fiesta but has a good comparison
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/mini/mini/91755/mini-jcw-vs-vauxhall-corsa-vxr-ford-fiesta-st
[Edited on 12-08-2015 by tom130691]
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chris_uk
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6.2 for the corsa
0-100 mph you cretin.
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Steve
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Saw that earlier, retards
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Steve
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6.2 for the corsa
0-100 mph you cretin.
Read this somewhere recently, 15. something if I recall correctly
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