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Cybermonkey

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3rd Oct 04 at 00:53

quote:
Originally posted by ezza
VTEC is a system to produce more power - if the block just had a 'normal' cam system like is found in older cars then it woudl not produce teh same power.

I suggest you look up torque and read what it is

I fcukin know what torque is!!!!
The point im making is that honda are able to make these variable cam engines very well beating every engine in its class for reliabilty and power full stop, u can talk about 'oh but if it didnt have V-tec it would be same as any other engine' BUT IT DOES!!! this is what im saying, Mitsubishi had a go with the Mivec, didnt work, was a more advanced 3 stage progresive cam system that keeps breaking.

Surely all the new Mazda's and Toyota's are just as good since they use a system of variable valve timing and are just as reliable as the Honda engines. Even the Ford Duratec engine's are well known for their reliability.

Cybermonkey

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3rd Oct 04 at 00:55

ezza, you fail to see that Honda are not the only manufacturers making sucessful VVT engines.

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3rd Oct 04 at 00:55

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what cc and aspiration are all these cars?

whatdoes that matter. you said "beating every engine in its class for reliabilty and power full stop" wehenteh CTR clearly does not do the above. also aspiration is irrelavent. honda use VTEC to make nearly 200hp from a 2.0L engine. VAG use a turbo to make 225ps from a 1.8, GM and ford use a turbo to make over 200ps from a 2.0L

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3rd Oct 04 at 00:55

Agreed. VTEC is the key behind Honda's success.

I've bought about 20 VTEC resistor mod chips off ebay for various cars and they've all added VTEC power to my cars - ranging from Corsas and Mondeo's to a Land Rover discovery and a Flymo.

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3rd Oct 04 at 00:57

quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey24

quote:
Originally posted by ezza
VTEC is a system to produce more power - if the block just had a 'normal' cam system like is found in older cars then it woudl not produce teh same power.

I suggest you look up torque and read what it is

I fcukin know what torque is!!!!
The point im making is that honda are able to make these variable cam engines very well beating every engine in its class for reliabilty and power full stop, u can talk about 'oh but if it didnt have V-tec it would be same as any other engine' BUT IT DOES!!! this is what im saying, Mitsubishi had a go with the Mivec, didnt work, was a more advanced 3 stage progresive cam system that keeps breaking.

Surely all the new Mazda's and Toyota's are just as good since they use a system of variable valve timing and are just as reliable as the Honda engines. Even the Ford Duratec engine's are well known for their reliability.

ezza is a thick slice of prime chump rump

ezza

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3rd Oct 04 at 00:57

As you say these cars are new and have only recently developed a realiable way of doing this, just out of interest what bhp do these cars produce?

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3rd Oct 04 at 00:58

quote:
Originally posted by ezza
VTEC is a system to produce more power - if the block just had a 'normal' cam system like is found in older cars then it woudl not produce teh same power.

I suggest you look up torque and read what it is

I fcukin know what torque is!!!!
The point im making is that honda are able to make these variable cam engines very well beating every engine in its class for reliabilty and power full stop, u can talk about 'oh but if it didnt have V-tec it would be same as any other engine' BUT IT DOES!!! this is what im saying, Mitsubishi had a go with the Mivec, didnt work, was a more advanced 3 stage progresive cam system that keeps breaking.

Your special, do you want a prize?

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3rd Oct 04 at 00:59

quote:
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As you say these cars are new and have only recently developed a realiable way of doing this, just out of interest what bhp do these cars produce?

who gives a shit, all i know is they make more torque than hondas do,

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3rd Oct 04 at 00:59

quote:
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As you say these cars are new and have only recently developed a realiable way of doing this, just out of interest what bhp do these cars produce?

the celica makes 189hp from 1.8Lwhich means is makes more per cc than the honda enginewhich don't brake 100hp per 1000cc

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3rd Oct 04 at 01:01

Im pleased to see how members of this forum are keeping a mature attitude and not resorting to childish posts.

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3rd Oct 04 at 01:02

quote:
Originally posted by ezza
Im pleased to see how members of this forum are keeping a mature attitude and not resorting to childish posts.

forum members get bored when they get chumps talking crap

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3rd Oct 04 at 01:02

B18c6 190bhp

Its not exactly 100bhp per litre

[Edited on 03-10-2004 by ezza]

goldfish

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3rd Oct 04 at 01:03

VAG 1.8 225hp

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3rd Oct 04 at 01:04

quote:
Originally posted by goldfish

quote:
Originally posted by ezza
Im pleased to see how members of this forum are keeping a mature attitude and not resorting to childish posts.

forum members get bored when they get chumps talking crap

Why not keep themselfs to themselfs there are plenty other topics to look at, such as 'what size rimz can i fit on my 1.2 corsa for shizzle?'

ezza

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3rd Oct 04 at 01:05

VAG?

goldfish

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3rd Oct 04 at 01:05

quote:
Originally posted by ezza

quote:
Originally posted by goldfish

quote:
Originally posted by ezza
Im pleased to see how members of this forum are keeping a mature attitude and not resorting to childish posts.

forum members get bored when they get chumps talking crap

Why not keep themselfs to themselfs there are plenty other topics to look

then PGTF to such threads then

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3rd Oct 04 at 01:05

quote:
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B18c6 190bhp

Its not exactly 100bhp per litre

[Edited on 03-10-2004 by ezza]

2.0 16v Duratec

127kW @ 7000RPM
196Nm @ 5500RPM

Dont see Honda engines making this sort of torque.

goldfish

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3rd Oct 04 at 01:06

quote:
Originally posted by ezza
VAG?

ina

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3rd Oct 04 at 01:06

FFS.

Cybermonkey

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3rd Oct 04 at 01:08

ezza, go find someone else to distract.

ezza

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3rd Oct 04 at 01:09

Did anybody actually bother looking at the links i posted earlier??

Well i cant be bothered having a debate with people like this.

Cybermonkey

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3rd Oct 04 at 01:09

what links

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3rd Oct 04 at 01:10

why should we look at links which will probably just tell us about high revs and close ratio gear boxes

Joff

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3rd Oct 04 at 01:10

I only started reading from page 3.

Cybermonkey

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3rd Oct 04 at 01:10

quote:
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I only started reading from page 3.

forceful habit huh? always skipping the front page news to look at tats

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