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topshot_2k
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i would like to know how a civic with 200bhp will leave me when i have 180+ bhp and more torque?
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topshot_2k
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ohh i forgot when Vtec kicks in the civic will go into orbit
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quote:
Originally posted by topshot_2k
i would like to know how a civic with 200bhp will leave me when i have 180+ bhp and more torque?


Well youd both be in first, the lights would change to green, youd both accelerate away and the Civic would leave you?

I do diagrams too y'know?!

Dione J
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Love it, saw one in the flesh lastweek on my way to a club. Parked my car up the carpark and walked back just to look at it

Was also in that colour, looked phat.
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Originally posted by topshot_2k
standard wont, cant beat them but i can keep with them, fuck all in it, but as i dont have my remap done yet i wont go there


so you may gain 5 BHP with a remap so you will be still about 20 BHP behind and very similar torque
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quote:
Originally posted by topshot_2k
i would like to know how a civic with 200bhp will leave me when i have 180+ bhp and more torque?

S2000 doesn't have the torque of comparable cars but doesn't suffer because of it. Differant driving style.
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quote:
Originally posted by topshot_2k
i would like to know how a civic with 200bhp will leave me when i have 180+ bhp and more torque?


I think the 20 BHP may have something to do with it and the fact the civic can put down the power better and the torque figures are very similar

Keep it coming its very entertaining for us all at work here
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quote:
Originally posted by Stu
quote:
Originally posted by topshot_2k
i would like to know how a civic with 200bhp will leave me when i have 180+ bhp and more torque?


Well youd both be in first, the lights would change to green, youd both accelerate away and the Civic would leave you?

I do diagrams too y'know?!




stu and nik have pretty much owned you in this post topshot, give up
topshot_2k
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no as i have a different inlet manifold, and a complete exhaust system/decat, PTFE inlet gaskets, BMC and then have my cams/remap done which should see between 185-190bhp when back on the road,

so about 5-10bhp MAX in it, i fail to see how i will have my arse handed to me
jr
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you have a inlet gasket made from tape that plumbers use

pugs are worse than i thought
topshot_2k
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quote:
Originally posted by jr
quote:
Originally posted by Stu
quote:
Originally posted by topshot_2k
i would like to know how a civic with 200bhp will leave me when i have 180+ bhp and more torque?


Well youd both be in first, the lights would change to green, youd both accelerate away and the Civic would leave you?

I do diagrams too y'know?!




stu and nik have pretty much owned you in this post topshot, give up



what with no evidence this is nearly as bad as people thinking a corsa with 20xe can thrash a 106 gti


Marc
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Pics of said engine?
jr
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they do, in a stright line, your point ?
Marc
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quote:
Originally posted by topshot_2k
this is nearly as bad as people thinking a corsa with 20xe can thrash a 106 gti


Are you saying it can't?
topshot_2k
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quote:
Originally posted by jr
you have a inlet gasket made from tape that plumbers use

pugs are worse than i thought



civic owners also changed them as it stops heat transferring to the inlet manifold and heating the air entering the engine.


stop trying to be smart jr,
topshot_2k
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quote:
Originally posted by Marc
quote:
Originally posted by topshot_2k
this is nearly as bad as people thinking a corsa with 20xe can thrash a 106 gti


Are you saying it can't?



yes
Marc
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So have you changed the inlet manifold or the gasket?
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quote:
Originally posted by Marc
Pics of said engine?




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Marc
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I used to use that all the time
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quote:
Originally posted by topshot_2k
quote:
Originally posted by Marc
quote:
Originally posted by topshot_2k
this is nearly as bad as people thinking a corsa with 20xe can thrash a 106 gti


Are you saying it can't?



yes


bollocks

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quote:
Originally posted by topshot_2k
i would like to know how a civic with 200bhp will leave me when i have 180+ bhp and more torque?


a) The Civic has a better suspension setup, Honda Type Rs ALWAYS handle perfectly, all of them.
b) The Civic engine is on the other side of the gearbox to yours, meaning the engine leans forward under acceleration, not back, thus increasing the load on the tyres, meaning more traction
c) The Civic has an LSD
d) The Civic does 0-60mph in 6.4 seconds, the 306 does it in 7.2, according to the manufacturers figures.

Would you like more?


[Edited on 04-04-2007 by Robin]
Marc
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In the Pugs defence, it is a good engine
topshot_2k
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not really
Tom
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quote:
Originally posted by topshot_2k
quote:
Originally posted by jr
quote:
Originally posted by Stu
quote:
Originally posted by topshot_2k
i would like to know how a civic with 200bhp will leave me when i have 180+ bhp and more torque?


Well youd both be in first, the lights would change to green, youd both accelerate away and the Civic would leave you?

I do diagrams too y'know?!




stu and nik have pretty much owned you in this post topshot, give up



what with no evidence this is nearly as bad as people thinking a corsa with 20xe can thrash a 106 gti





Show us your evidence then

BTW a manifold gasket mod, do you sell them on ebay

(I don't care if I look silly to anyone who buys into this but how much difference can a fucking gasket make please)

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